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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have made a brief comment on this article:

&quot;I&#039;m in almost daily contact with Ugandans and it is most certainly the case that many gay Ugandans are very hard pressed, and have been for years. To downplay this is to indulge in irresponsible and deceitful tittle-tattle.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have made a brief comment on this article:</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m in almost daily contact with Ugandans and it is most certainly the case that many gay Ugandans are very hard pressed, and have been for years. To downplay this is to indulge in irresponsible and deceitful tittle-tattle.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 20:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ TRiG :



As Warren has correctly pointed out, Shah&#039;s claims didn&#039;t seem to accord with reality.  Most of my comment pursuant to the article were in response to other comment,  but your points look fair enough to me.



Incidentally, the Kato murder trial was delayed earlier this month (I think it may resume tomorrow).  My guess is that the &#039;evidence&#039; is not holding together very well (someone who is &#039;defending themselves&#039;, as Nsubuga claims, does not arrive in a car, go into the house of the person from whom he is defending himself, and then leave a few minutes later - as other witnesses claimed in the immediate aftermath of the murder when the &#039;theory&#039; was &#039;robbery&#039;), and other &#039;evidence&#039; may be being sought.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ TRiG :</p>
<p>As Warren has correctly pointed out, Shah&#8217;s claims didn&#8217;t seem to accord with reality.  Most of my comment pursuant to the article were in response to other comment,  but your points look fair enough to me.</p>
<p>Incidentally, the Kato murder trial was delayed earlier this month (I think it may resume tomorrow).  My guess is that the &#8216;evidence&#8217; is not holding together very well (someone who is &#8216;defending themselves&#8217;, as Nsubuga claims, does not arrive in a car, go into the house of the person from whom he is defending himself, and then leave a few minutes later &#8211; as other witnesses claimed in the immediate aftermath of the murder when the &#8216;theory&#8217; was &#8216;robbery&#8217;), and other &#8216;evidence&#8217; may be being sought.</p>
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		By: Timothy (TRiG)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timothy (TRiG)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 20:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My comment on the article was, perhaps, somewhat intemperate, but I think they deserved it:



&quot;Police now claiming that Kato was murdered by an acquaintance for reasons unrelated to homophobia.&quot;



Yes, the police are claiming that, but this is standard practice for police who don&#039;t want to investigate the death of someone they despise. Bigoted police are always willing to find some excuse for murder. Not mentioning this well-known fact in your article is a lie of omission. Lie number 1.







&quot;Its draconian provisions, whose very harshness has repelled virtually all of Uganda&#039;s major political and religious leaders.&quot;



In fact, almost all Ugandan religious leaders vigorously approve of the bill, though some would like the death penalty provisions changed to life imprisonment. In fact the related articles include one with the summary &quot;American pastors and leaders are united in condemning the legislation while Ugandans are united in support.&quot; United in their support, or repelled? Make your mind up. Lie number 2.







&quot;[The Family] is a relational and non-doctrinaire group that seeks to get the high and the mighty a little closer to Jesus.&quot;



It&#039;s a bizare and secretive political pressure group operating under a cloak of religion. Lie number 3.



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&quot;The agenda of the Americans who ran the 2009 conference was therapeutic.&quot;



Which was, of course, why they gave a platform to the hate-filled lying Holocaust revisionist Scott Lively. Lively is a fraud, is obsessed with homosexuality, and almost everything he says about homosexuality is a lie. The claim that this conference was &quot;theraputic&quot; is absurd, and counts as your lie number 4.



TRiG.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My comment on the article was, perhaps, somewhat intemperate, but I think they deserved it:</p>
<p>&#8220;Police now claiming that Kato was murdered by an acquaintance for reasons unrelated to homophobia.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, the police are claiming that, but this is standard practice for police who don&#8217;t want to investigate the death of someone they despise. Bigoted police are always willing to find some excuse for murder. Not mentioning this well-known fact in your article is a lie of omission. Lie number 1.</p>
<p>&#8220;Its draconian provisions, whose very harshness has repelled virtually all of Uganda&#8217;s major political and religious leaders.&#8221;</p>
<p>In fact, almost all Ugandan religious leaders vigorously approve of the bill, though some would like the death penalty provisions changed to life imprisonment. In fact the related articles include one with the summary &#8220;American pastors and leaders are united in condemning the legislation while Ugandans are united in support.&#8221; United in their support, or repelled? Make your mind up. Lie number 2.</p>
<p>&#8220;[The Family] is a relational and non-doctrinaire group that seeks to get the high and the mighty a little closer to Jesus.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a bizare and secretive political pressure group operating under a cloak of religion. Lie number 3.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>&#8220;The agenda of the Americans who ran the 2009 conference was therapeutic.&#8221;</p>
<p>Which was, of course, why they gave a platform to the hate-filled lying Holocaust revisionist Scott Lively. Lively is a fraud, is obsessed with homosexuality, and almost everything he says about homosexuality is a lie. The claim that this conference was &#8220;theraputic&#8221; is absurd, and counts as your lie number 4.</p>
<p>TRiG.</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 19:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, the comments on the article are building up!]]></description>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[More comment on the CT article: http://www.exgaywatch.com/wp/2011/03/christianity-today-article-downplays-american-role-in-ugandan-homophobia/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More comment on the CT article: <a href="http://www.exgaywatch.com/wp/2011/03/christianity-today-article-downplays-american-role-in-ugandan-homophobia/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.exgaywatch.com/wp/2011/03/christianity-today-article-downplays-american-role-in-ugandan-homophobia/</a></p>
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