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	Comments on: What is change? Exodus and the Our America segment	</title>
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		By: Throbert McGee		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Teresa: Actually, I had seen your response on the other thread, but mainly I wanted to share with you the &lt;a href=&quot;http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Dqrh6cnKzco/TYTzzZ0jeQI/AAAAAAAAAJk/AK4xPsPwE8g/s400/homosexual_metaphor_kitty.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cat picture&lt;/a&gt; that I subsequently made in PhotoShop to visually represent the &quot;mutant perception&quot; of homosexuals! (I did spend some time fiddling around with it, and as they say, a picture can be worth a thousand words.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teresa: Actually, I had seen your response on the other thread, but mainly I wanted to share with you the <a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Dqrh6cnKzco/TYTzzZ0jeQI/AAAAAAAAAJk/AK4xPsPwE8g/s400/homosexual_metaphor_kitty.jpg" rel="nofollow">cat picture</a> that I subsequently made in PhotoShop to visually represent the &#8220;mutant perception&#8221; of homosexuals! (I did spend some time fiddling around with it, and as they say, a picture can be worth a thousand words.)</p>
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		By: Teresa		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 22:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It seems Exodus is trying to move to the Catholic position of &#039;chastity&#039; for homosexuals.  Courage is the Catholic ministry for homosexuals.



However, side-by-side with promoting &#039;chastity&#039; is the constant &#039;change&#039; speak.  Courage annual conferences are replete with therapists, social workers, counselors all beating the drum about &#039;how this happened&#039; and how to &#039;change&#039; it.  It&#039;s a bit mind-boggling to be sure.  You&#039;re never quite good enough is the not so subtle message.  If only, if only ....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems Exodus is trying to move to the Catholic position of &#8216;chastity&#8217; for homosexuals.  Courage is the Catholic ministry for homosexuals.</p>
<p>However, side-by-side with promoting &#8216;chastity&#8217; is the constant &#8216;change&#8217; speak.  Courage annual conferences are replete with therapists, social workers, counselors all beating the drum about &#8216;how this happened&#8217; and how to &#8216;change&#8217; it.  It&#8217;s a bit mind-boggling to be sure.  You&#8217;re never quite good enough is the not so subtle message.  If only, if only &#8230;.</p>
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		By: Ann		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[AJ,



I am still unsure how to define heterosexual and homosexual to any degree of certainty for everyone.  Having said that, what degree of change or modification, from how you feel now,  would you find acceptable to live the quality of life you want to?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJ,</p>
<p>I am still unsure how to define heterosexual and homosexual to any degree of certainty for everyone.  Having said that, what degree of change or modification, from how you feel now,  would you find acceptable to live the quality of life you want to?</p>
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		By: Debbie Thurman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Debbie Thurman]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Why do I not accept being gay? I don&#039;t know. Maybe it&#039;s the Holy Spirit in my life or maybe its my upbringing in the rural South in a Southern Baptist family. My faith is very important to me, and I do wish that I could have a family. But as I&#039;ve begun to accept that my attractions probably won&#039;t ever change, that has brought some peace and freedom. I&#039;m on here seriously searching for answers because I don&#039;t think I&#039;m getting them in real life.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Maybe Warren&#039;s and Mark Yarhouse&#039;s Sexual Identity Therapy (SIT) is what you are seeking. Don&#039;t know. Ask Warren. Regarding spiritual issues, you might try giving those 10 points of George Barna&#039;s a look. Maybe something there will click. Beyond that, it is a matter for you and God to sort out through much prayer and meditation. Is the Spirit giving you no peace about where you are in life? Is there something you are supposed to be in obedience about that you are not? Only you can know that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Why do I not accept being gay? I don&#8217;t know. Maybe it&#8217;s the Holy Spirit in my life or maybe its my upbringing in the rural South in a Southern Baptist family. My faith is very important to me, and I do wish that I could have a family. But as I&#8217;ve begun to accept that my attractions probably won&#8217;t ever change, that has brought some peace and freedom. I&#8217;m on here seriously searching for answers because I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m getting them in real life.</p></blockquote>
<p>Maybe Warren&#8217;s and Mark Yarhouse&#8217;s Sexual Identity Therapy (SIT) is what you are seeking. Don&#8217;t know. Ask Warren. Regarding spiritual issues, you might try giving those 10 points of George Barna&#8217;s a look. Maybe something there will click. Beyond that, it is a matter for you and God to sort out through much prayer and meditation. Is the Spirit giving you no peace about where you are in life? Is there something you are supposed to be in obedience about that you are not? Only you can know that.</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[I take the view that the term &#039;sodomite&#039; is nowadays one that is often &lt;strong&gt;mis&lt;/strong&gt;used by anti-gay propagandists.  The story of Sodom and Gomorrah is very clearly &lt;strong&gt;not&lt;/strong&gt; referring to consensual sexual relations.



As for the &#039;interpretations&#039; of Lev. 18 : 22: Jews of the Second Temple period probably interpreted it rather differently from many Christians (and others, of course, including many liberal Jews) today.  This is not something which should surprise, or worry, us unduly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take the view that the term &#8216;sodomite&#8217; is nowadays one that is often <strong>mis</strong>used by anti-gay propagandists.  The story of Sodom and Gomorrah is very clearly <strong>not</strong> referring to consensual sexual relations.</p>
<p>As for the &#8216;interpretations&#8217; of Lev. 18 : 22: Jews of the Second Temple period probably interpreted it rather differently from many Christians (and others, of course, including many liberal Jews) today.  This is not something which should surprise, or worry, us unduly.</p>
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