Comments on: New gay change group cites Francis Collins to mislead readers

By: Debbie Thurman

Debbie Thurman — Wed, 30 May 2018 21:19:32 +0000

The group claimed in the Salt Lake City paper that science and religion were on the same page and used Francis Collins to bolster their case for science. This is what I object to. They claim to be a scientific group in their public statement but (mis)use science as a means of advancing an essentially religious perspective.

That is clear, Warren. I have not disagreed with you on that, have I?

By: ken

ken — Wed, 30 May 2018 21:19:32 +0000

Debbie Thurman# ~ Feb 26, 2011 at 8:12 pm

“Yes, but they are not a scientific group. They are LDS, are they not? That opens the topic to spiritual concerns.”

however they are distorting scientific findings to bolster their claims. The issue here isn’t their religious beliefs but there distortion of scientific claims.

By: Dave

Dave — Wed, 30 May 2018 21:19:32 +0000

Not sure what happened in my post above .. just ignore the first time you see the paragraph that begins with: “Having said all this .. the presence of …” and jump to the second time you see the same phrase

Dave

By: Debbie Thurman

Debbie Thurman — Wed, 30 May 2018 21:19:32 +0000

Preston, it’s rather hard to take “the God stuff” out of the human equation. We are all spiritual beings, like it or not. Religion messes things up, agreed. I don’t think God is too interested in religion. He’s interested in having His people know Him and themselves. Also, most people acknowledge their spirituality, even if they don’t know how best to access it.

By: Debbie Thurman

Debbie Thurman — Wed, 30 May 2018 21:09:46 +0000

LOL. This keeps getting better. Could you up my degree to a doctorate next time, Stephen? Don’t forget to let everybody know who ordained me (let me know, too). And please tell me which bank account has all that money. I really want to know that.