Comments on: Bryan Fischer explains why the AFA pulled his column on Native Americans

By: Debbie Thurman

Debbie Thurman — Wed, 30 May 2018 21:13:44 +0000

U.S. history is consistent with all history, including that recorded in the Bible. Fallen man is always capable of atrocities. The inglorious parts of America’s history are no exception. Life is full of heroes and bums, saints and sinners. Of course, Fischer’s ludicrous views are no worse than those found in the leftist academic world. He’d be a tenured college professor if there were a conservative place he could hang his hat and do so with impunity.

By: Warren

Warren — Wed, 30 May 2018 19:28:03 +0000

In reply to Dave2. Dave2 - It is pretty simple really. According to the OT, God gave instructions about how the Isrealites were to relate to the natives. There was no scripture instructing the Europeans to do any such thing, nor is there any general instruction to wipe out natives. Seeing the Europeans as analogous to OT Jews is a non-starter.

By: stephen

stephen — Wed, 30 May 2018 19:07:22 +0000

Wow. I never saw before that Bryan Fischer was just like, say, Niall Ferguson. But of course! They’re just the same. Apart from the degrees, education, intelligence, reputation, accomplishments, books published, influence, expertise, talent, etc, they’re practically identical. Good to know.

By: Dave2

Dave2 — Wed, 30 May 2018 19:02:34 +0000

It is pretty simple really. According to the OT, God gave instructions about how the Israelites were to relate to the natives. There was no scripture instructing the Europeans to do any such thing, nor is there any general instruction to wipe out natives.”

Well, at least you finally seem to accept that you have no basis to condemn the genocide of the various peoples who were exterminated in the OT according to divine instruction. I am making progress.

As for the applicability of OT moral teachings to the Indians, if you believe that the Bible is the inerrant word of God – a text given to mankind by the creator of the Universe – then it is all general instruction, either direct instruction or instruction by way of moral example.

The fact that these moral choices (to invade, conquer and commit genocide) occurred in the context of ancient Israel would not limit their application any more than historical context would limit the ten commandments to the Israelites or limit the application of Mark 12:17 (“render unto Caesar”) to Roman emperors named Caesar.

By: Richard Willmer

Richard Willmer — Wed, 30 May 2018 19:02:34 +0000

Indeed there is much more to the OT than its first two books. The prophetic books (often ignored by too many of us, I suspect) are full of wonderful stuff …

Debbie and Jayhuck are surely correct in saying that the purpose of the Bible is to point us towards the truth about God – a truth that is uniquely revealed in Christ* (so we who are Christians believe). It is a crying shame when people like Fischer use bits of text to ‘justify’ their own political agenda, and – I would submit – an abuse of scripture.

* the ‘Human Face of God’ (and the ‘Divine Face of Humanity’, of course)