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		By: Maazi NCO		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maazi NCO]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;In his &#039;excitement&#039;, has &#039;Maazi&#039; confused Besigye with Ssempa, I wonder?&lt;/blockquote&gt;



No I did not confuse the two men. The local press are too engrossed in other matters to report Besigye&#039;s comments on gayism. The press are equally not interested in reporting Ssempa&#039;s response to Besigye&#039;s comment for exactly the same reasons. Like I said earlier, gayism is law enforcement issue not election matter.



&lt;blockquote&gt;&#039;Maazi&#039;, You write a lot, but you say nothing new.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Well, the same can be said about you and your online pal, Anteros.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>In his &#8216;excitement&#8217;, has &#8216;Maazi&#8217; confused Besigye with Ssempa, I wonder?</p></blockquote>
<p>No I did not confuse the two men. The local press are too engrossed in other matters to report Besigye&#8217;s comments on gayism. The press are equally not interested in reporting Ssempa&#8217;s response to Besigye&#8217;s comment for exactly the same reasons. Like I said earlier, gayism is law enforcement issue not election matter.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8216;Maazi&#8217;, You write a lot, but you say nothing new.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, the same can be said about you and your online pal, Anteros.</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Anteros



In his &#039;excitement&#039;, has &#039;Maazi&#039; confused Besigye with Ssempa, I wonder?  My recent comment said that SSEMPA&#039;S latest public statement had not been reported - i.e. the ANTI-gay statement was not covered.  As far as I know, only MTN News covered it and, like the Sanyu FM interview that preceded it, the coverage was &#039;neutral&#039;, rather than &#039;pro-Ssempa&#039; or &#039;pro-homophobia&#039;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anteros</p>
<p>In his &#8216;excitement&#8217;, has &#8216;Maazi&#8217; confused Besigye with Ssempa, I wonder?  My recent comment said that SSEMPA&#8217;S latest public statement had not been reported &#8211; i.e. the ANTI-gay statement was not covered.  As far as I know, only MTN News covered it and, like the Sanyu FM interview that preceded it, the coverage was &#8216;neutral&#8217;, rather than &#8216;pro-Ssempa&#8217; or &#8216;pro-homophobia&#8217;.</p>
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		By: anteros		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Maazi says,



Consent is

no excuse to engage in

behaviour which Africans

consider to be anti-social,

abhorrent, inhuman and

degrading.



Still playing dumb.



You stopped short of claiming that all non-Africans will seek any excuse to engage in homosexuality because all non-Africans are so homophilic that they might as well all be homosexuals and leave heterosexuality up to Africans, the righteous and morally superior race - according to your personal morality yardstick.



When countries around the world began decriminalizing homosexuality, do you honestly believe that they &quot;approved&quot; homosexuality and thereby encouraged their citizens to engage in homosexuality? Please answer that question, Maazi.



Let me encourage you to consider Africa&#039;s entire population and incredible diversity before you selfishly assume the role of Africa&#039;s spokesperson by making statements on behalf of all Africans, Mr. Africa.



There are millions of Africans who regularly do a lot more than offer their personal consent to personally engage in what you personally consider anti-social, abhorrent, inhuman and degrading. With such poor regard for personal consent, it&#039;s little wonder why those Africans who insist on clinging onto last century&#039;s cultural norms and practices would force unwilling children and widows into marriage. This is 2011... Africans are no longer governed by the say-so of their ancestors, &quot;elders&quot; and outdated customs... we won&#039;t have morally corrupt authorities, or anybody else, poking their noses into our bedrooms offering and denying consent on our behalf for every little sexual thing.



Maazi, Africa isn&#039;t your little puppy for you to train, discipline and brag about the breed, genealogy and behavior you wish it had.



Africans are no less entitled to privacy than other human beings. It&#039;s a human right, found in the Ugandan Constitution - put there to protect all Ugandan citizens from nosy violators of human rights.



And because privacy is a constitutional internationally recognized human right... whatever consenting adults choose to do in privacy cannot be policed because that would infringe on their right to privacy... no matter how African they are... no matter what your ninety whatever percent of Ugandans would have to say about it if they ever got to know... and I am pretty sure that most wouldn&#039;t care to find out... and if they did care to find out, then the problem would lie in their unconstitutional nosiness, not in their neighbors&#039; bedrooms.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maazi says,</p>
<p>Consent is</p>
<p>no excuse to engage in</p>
<p>behaviour which Africans</p>
<p>consider to be anti-social,</p>
<p>abhorrent, inhuman and</p>
<p>degrading.</p>
<p>Still playing dumb.</p>
<p>You stopped short of claiming that all non-Africans will seek any excuse to engage in homosexuality because all non-Africans are so homophilic that they might as well all be homosexuals and leave heterosexuality up to Africans, the righteous and morally superior race &#8211; according to your personal morality yardstick.</p>
<p>When countries around the world began decriminalizing homosexuality, do you honestly believe that they &#8220;approved&#8221; homosexuality and thereby encouraged their citizens to engage in homosexuality? Please answer that question, Maazi.</p>
<p>Let me encourage you to consider Africa&#8217;s entire population and incredible diversity before you selfishly assume the role of Africa&#8217;s spokesperson by making statements on behalf of all Africans, Mr. Africa.</p>
<p>There are millions of Africans who regularly do a lot more than offer their personal consent to personally engage in what you personally consider anti-social, abhorrent, inhuman and degrading. With such poor regard for personal consent, it&#8217;s little wonder why those Africans who insist on clinging onto last century&#8217;s cultural norms and practices would force unwilling children and widows into marriage. This is 2011&#8230; Africans are no longer governed by the say-so of their ancestors, &#8220;elders&#8221; and outdated customs&#8230; we won&#8217;t have morally corrupt authorities, or anybody else, poking their noses into our bedrooms offering and denying consent on our behalf for every little sexual thing.</p>
<p>Maazi, Africa isn&#8217;t your little puppy for you to train, discipline and brag about the breed, genealogy and behavior you wish it had.</p>
<p>Africans are no less entitled to privacy than other human beings. It&#8217;s a human right, found in the Ugandan Constitution &#8211; put there to protect all Ugandan citizens from nosy violators of human rights.</p>
<p>And because privacy is a constitutional internationally recognized human right&#8230; whatever consenting adults choose to do in privacy cannot be policed because that would infringe on their right to privacy&#8230; no matter how African they are&#8230; no matter what your ninety whatever percent of Ugandans would have to say about it if they ever got to know&#8230; and I am pretty sure that most wouldn&#8217;t care to find out&#8230; and if they did care to find out, then the problem would lie in their unconstitutional nosiness, not in their neighbors&#8217; bedrooms.</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2018 00:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#039;Pewpew&#039;!  How very droll!



There was an interview, which I heard, just over a week ago (Thursday 13th, I think).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Pewpew&#8217;!  How very droll!</p>
<p>There was an interview, which I heard, just over a week ago (Thursday 13th, I think).</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[I must confess that I heard the Sanyu FM interview in full; &#039;p** p**&#039; featured strongly in Ssempa&#039;s dialectic!  In fact, &#039;p** p**&#039; just about sums it all up!



In the Feb. &#039;pastoral porn show&#039;, children could be seen in the audience; in May, he remembered to send the children out half way through (a small improvement on before, I suppose!) - after certain sexual techniques had been described with reference to ice cream (maybe so the children could &#039;relate better&#039; to the subject matter)!



A serious point: those public porn shows would almost certainly have led to Ssempa being up on a criminal charge in the (decadent - according to &#039;Maazi-boy&#039;) U.K..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must confess that I heard the Sanyu FM interview in full; &#8216;p** p**&#8217; featured strongly in Ssempa&#8217;s dialectic!  In fact, &#8216;p** p**&#8217; just about sums it all up!</p>
<p>In the Feb. &#8216;pastoral porn show&#8217;, children could be seen in the audience; in May, he remembered to send the children out half way through (a small improvement on before, I suppose!) &#8211; after certain sexual techniques had been described with reference to ice cream (maybe so the children could &#8216;relate better&#8217; to the subject matter)!</p>
<p>A serious point: those public porn shows would almost certainly have led to Ssempa being up on a criminal charge in the (decadent &#8211; according to &#8216;Maazi-boy&#8217;) U.K..</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[But, &#039;Maazi&#039;, if &#039;homosexuality&#039; is (as you claim) such an important issue with regard to &#039;African culture&#039;, why is Ssempa being ignored these days?



Anteros and I have made a wide range of points, none of which you have answered satisfactorily, despite the large quantity of verbiage you inflict upon us.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, &#8216;Maazi&#8217;, if &#8216;homosexuality&#8217; is (as you claim) such an important issue with regard to &#8216;African culture&#8217;, why is Ssempa being ignored these days?</p>
<p>Anteros and I have made a wide range of points, none of which you have answered satisfactorily, despite the large quantity of verbiage you inflict upon us.</p>
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		By: Maazi NCO		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Now to address some assertions you made earlier----



&lt;blockquote&gt;Also, what you say is untrue: not all Africans condemn their gay compatriots&lt;/blockquote&gt;



It is not possible to get everyone to agree on any single subject matter on earth. Not all Americans agree with the necessity for the death penalty, but what counts is that majority of the population sees the necessity of that sort of  &quot;punishment&quot;. Not all Brits agree that drugs should be illegal, but a simple majority still do. Of course, not all Africans (including the sex deviants themselves) condemn gayism. So what?! The fact remains that the overwhelming majority of Africans condemn it and want it to remain illegal.



&lt;blockquote&gt;Ah, it&#039;s the &#039;African&#039; argument again!&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Oh yes, it is indeed the African argument----and what about it?!! Our worldview is completely different from yours. You chaps in the West believe in the libertarian ideology and the supremacy of individuality and the sacrosanctness of  so-called &quot;informed consent&quot;. We in Africa believe in the concept of  communal rights/interests being put before selfish individual rights/interests. For us, responsibility to one&#039;s family and community is more important than that person&#039;s right to indulge their compulsive sexual fantasies. The honourable judges of Botswana used arguments not too dissimilar to mine to dismiss three desperate attempts by a bunch of western-sponsored gay sex advocates to have the sodomy laws there quashed. In Uganda, we are confident that gayism shall not only be condemned by most, but it shall be strongly discouraged by law.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now to address some assertions you made earlier&#8212;-</p>
<blockquote><p>Also, what you say is untrue: not all Africans condemn their gay compatriots</p></blockquote>
<p>It is not possible to get everyone to agree on any single subject matter on earth. Not all Americans agree with the necessity for the death penalty, but what counts is that majority of the population sees the necessity of that sort of  &#8220;punishment&#8221;. Not all Brits agree that drugs should be illegal, but a simple majority still do. Of course, not all Africans (including the sex deviants themselves) condemn gayism. So what?! The fact remains that the overwhelming majority of Africans condemn it and want it to remain illegal.</p>
<blockquote><p>Ah, it&#8217;s the &#8216;African&#8217; argument again!</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh yes, it is indeed the African argument&#8212;-and what about it?!! Our worldview is completely different from yours. You chaps in the West believe in the libertarian ideology and the supremacy of individuality and the sacrosanctness of  so-called &#8220;informed consent&#8221;. We in Africa believe in the concept of  communal rights/interests being put before selfish individual rights/interests. For us, responsibility to one&#8217;s family and community is more important than that person&#8217;s right to indulge their compulsive sexual fantasies. The honourable judges of Botswana used arguments not too dissimilar to mine to dismiss three desperate attempts by a bunch of western-sponsored gay sex advocates to have the sodomy laws there quashed. In Uganda, we are confident that gayism shall not only be condemned by most, but it shall be strongly discouraged by law.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#039;Maazi&#039;



You write a lot, but you say nothing new.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Maazi&#8217;</p>
<p>You write a lot, but you say nothing new.</p>
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		By: anteros		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[i still dont understand how he got away with showing porn to public crowds with kids... not once...



i didnt know he had an interview on sanyu fm... what i heard days ago on sanyu fm&#039;s early morning news sounded like a recording from his statement, the same statement that got 5-10 seconds on NTV news the night before.



i&#039;m amazed that he&#039;s still trippin over pewpew.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i still dont understand how he got away with showing porn to public crowds with kids&#8230; not once&#8230;</p>
<p>i didnt know he had an interview on sanyu fm&#8230; what i heard days ago on sanyu fm&#8217;s early morning news sounded like a recording from his statement, the same statement that got 5-10 seconds on NTV news the night before.</p>
<p>i&#8217;m amazed that he&#8217;s still trippin over pewpew.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is no brainer really. On January 14, I explained why it was &quot;politically-safe&quot; for Kizza Besigye to &lt;b&gt;SAY &lt;/b&gt;what he said and get away with it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is no brainer really. On January 14, I explained why it was &#8220;politically-safe&#8221; for Kizza Besigye to <b>SAY </b>what he said and get away with it.</p>
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