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	Comments on: UN restores reference to sexual orientation in violence policy &#8211; UPDATED	</title>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#039;Maazi&#039;



Now, let&#039;s see if you can actually state for us any kind of OBJECTIVE moral and philosophical basis for saying that (law-abiding) people in consensual sexual relationships are equivalent to robbers, rapist or child abusers.  



(We&#039;ve had a lot of &#039;political commentary&#039; and rhetoric from you, but NO proper moral or philosophical justification of your views.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Maazi&#8217;</p>
<p>Now, let&#8217;s see if you can actually state for us any kind of OBJECTIVE moral and philosophical basis for saying that (law-abiding) people in consensual sexual relationships are equivalent to robbers, rapist or child abusers.  </p>
<p>(We&#8217;ve had a lot of &#8216;political commentary&#8217; and rhetoric from you, but NO proper moral or philosophical justification of your views.)</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/12/21/un-restores-reference-to-sexual-orientation-in-violence-policy/#comment-93854</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 21:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, &#039;Maazi&#039;, we certainly agree on the subject of Ssempa - a way out loony if ever there was one (even his rather odd U.S. backers have &#039;backed off&#039; - at least publically)!



I am still very interested to know your philosophical and jurisprudential &#039;justification&#039; for drawing parallels between things like rape, robbery and murder on the one hand, and, on the other hand, consensual sexual relations.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, &#8216;Maazi&#8217;, we certainly agree on the subject of Ssempa &#8211; a way out loony if ever there was one (even his rather odd U.S. backers have &#8216;backed off&#8217; &#8211; at least publically)!</p>
<p>I am still very interested to know your philosophical and jurisprudential &#8216;justification&#8217; for drawing parallels between things like rape, robbery and murder on the one hand, and, on the other hand, consensual sexual relations.</p>
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		By: anteros		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/12/21/un-restores-reference-to-sexual-orientation-in-violence-policy/#comment-93848</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 21:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[if, during presidential campaigns, the head of the inter-party coalition, kizza besigye (the top contestant in the upcoming presidential elections) can talk about decriminalizing homosexuality... then he&#039;s certainly not concerned about alienating the ninety whatever percent of ugandans whose alleged sole desire is to see bahati&#039;s bill passed into law.



perhaps besigye is more in tune with the actual position of the *real* ninety whatever percent of ugandans who are sick and tired of hearing the bahatites&#039; anti-gay propaganda constantly drowning their voices and drawing attention away from their long list of pressing concerns.



...a clear demonstration of the progress ugandans are making.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if, during presidential campaigns, the head of the inter-party coalition, kizza besigye (the top contestant in the upcoming presidential elections) can talk about decriminalizing homosexuality&#8230; then he&#8217;s certainly not concerned about alienating the ninety whatever percent of ugandans whose alleged sole desire is to see bahati&#8217;s bill passed into law.</p>
<p>perhaps besigye is more in tune with the actual position of the *real* ninety whatever percent of ugandans who are sick and tired of hearing the bahatites&#8217; anti-gay propaganda constantly drowning their voices and drawing attention away from their long list of pressing concerns.</p>
<p>&#8230;a clear demonstration of the progress ugandans are making.</p>
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		By: James Onen		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/12/21/un-restores-reference-to-sexual-orientation-in-violence-policy/#comment-93852</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Onen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 21:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Maazi NCO you said:



&lt;blockquote&gt;Warren,



I wonder why my commentary is always under moderation, but that of my challengers (who support your personal opinion) are not. Well, it is your blog. Enjoy !!&lt;/blockquote&gt;



My comments are also always placed under moderation so stop whining.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maazi NCO you said:</p>
<blockquote><p>Warren,</p>
<p>I wonder why my commentary is always under moderation, but that of my challengers (who support your personal opinion) are not. Well, it is your blog. Enjoy !!</p></blockquote>
<p>My comments are also always placed under moderation so stop whining.</p>
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		By: anteros		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/12/21/un-restores-reference-to-sexual-orientation-in-violence-policy/#comment-93849</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anteros]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[...trolling away!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;trolling away!</p>
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		By: anteros		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/12/21/un-restores-reference-to-sexual-orientation-in-violence-policy/#comment-93847</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anteros]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 21:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Maazi claimed:



Of

course, if religious leaders or

NRM politicians were to take

Besigye up on his comment

about gayism, many of his

would-be &quot;gay rights&quot;

supporters will be shocked at

the furious speed with which

he would back-pedal claiming

that he was &quot;quoted out of

context&quot;; that he was

&quot;misquoted&quot; or that he simply

&quot;said no such thing !!&quot;



well, Ssempa was spitting mad when he appeared on the evening news attempting to blackmail besigye into reconsidering his decriminalization statement. he&#039;s turned himself into an embarrassment and a nuisance. besigye and all the other presidential candidates ignored ssempa&#039;s stupid ultimatum... pushing the bill further into oblivion. go ssempa!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maazi claimed:</p>
<p>Of</p>
<p>course, if religious leaders or</p>
<p>NRM politicians were to take</p>
<p>Besigye up on his comment</p>
<p>about gayism, many of his</p>
<p>would-be &#8220;gay rights&#8221;</p>
<p>supporters will be shocked at</p>
<p>the furious speed with which</p>
<p>he would back-pedal claiming</p>
<p>that he was &#8220;quoted out of</p>
<p>context&#8221;; that he was</p>
<p>&#8220;misquoted&#8221; or that he simply</p>
<p>&#8220;said no such thing !!&#8221;</p>
<p>well, Ssempa was spitting mad when he appeared on the evening news attempting to blackmail besigye into reconsidering his decriminalization statement. he&#8217;s turned himself into an embarrassment and a nuisance. besigye and all the other presidential candidates ignored ssempa&#8217;s stupid ultimatum&#8230; pushing the bill further into oblivion. go ssempa!</p>
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		By: Maazi NCO		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/12/21/un-restores-reference-to-sexual-orientation-in-violence-policy/#comment-93845</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maazi NCO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 21:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Warren,



I wonder why my commentary is always under moderation, but that of my challengers (who support your personal opinion) are not. Well, it is your blog. Enjoy !!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warren,</p>
<p>I wonder why my commentary is always under moderation, but that of my challengers (who support your personal opinion) are not. Well, it is your blog. Enjoy !!</p>
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		By: Maazi NCO		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/12/21/un-restores-reference-to-sexual-orientation-in-violence-policy/#comment-93843</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maazi NCO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 21:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Anteros, &quot;sexual orientation&quot; is not a human right recognized by 1948 UN Declaration of Human Rights. Please do not bother to claim that it is covered by vaguely defined phrase-- &quot;other status&quot;--in the declaration.  The 2008 UN Declaration on Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity will never be approved by majority of the 192 nations of the world.  As for the Botswana cases, I have prepared a response. It is up to Warren to decide whether you will view it or not.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anteros, &#8220;sexual orientation&#8221; is not a human right recognized by 1948 UN Declaration of Human Rights. Please do not bother to claim that it is covered by vaguely defined phrase&#8211; &#8220;other status&#8221;&#8211;in the declaration.  The 2008 UN Declaration on Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity will never be approved by majority of the 192 nations of the world.  As for the Botswana cases, I have prepared a response. It is up to Warren to decide whether you will view it or not.</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/12/21/un-restores-reference-to-sexual-orientation-in-violence-policy/#comment-93844</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think &#039;Maazi&#039; is simply wanting to &#039;maintain his position&#039;, even though his has no moral or philosophical basis for so doing.  Fancy citing someone like Mugabe (whom Museveni has described as an &#039;embarrassment to Africa&#039;) to support one&#039;s case - a sure sign of intellectual desperation!



Just because other African countries (such as Malawi, Burundi and Zimbabwe - not exactly three &#039;beacons of hope&#039; for the Continent, incidentally!) do bad things, there is no excuse for Uganda to do something even worse, such as the mass murder proposed by David Bahati.  Rwanda, on the other hand, has apparently moved in the other direction recently - their contribution to the UN debate was most correct and moving.



One last point: isn&#039;t it rather odd that Ugandans like &#039;Maazi&#039; seem to think they are being &#039;good little nationalists&#039; by &#039;bashing&#039; ... other Ugandans???!!!  Mad!  Completely mad!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think &#8216;Maazi&#8217; is simply wanting to &#8216;maintain his position&#8217;, even though his has no moral or philosophical basis for so doing.  Fancy citing someone like Mugabe (whom Museveni has described as an &#8217;embarrassment to Africa&#8217;) to support one&#8217;s case &#8211; a sure sign of intellectual desperation!</p>
<p>Just because other African countries (such as Malawi, Burundi and Zimbabwe &#8211; not exactly three &#8216;beacons of hope&#8217; for the Continent, incidentally!) do bad things, there is no excuse for Uganda to do something even worse, such as the mass murder proposed by David Bahati.  Rwanda, on the other hand, has apparently moved in the other direction recently &#8211; their contribution to the UN debate was most correct and moving.</p>
<p>One last point: isn&#8217;t it rather odd that Ugandans like &#8216;Maazi&#8217; seem to think they are being &#8216;good little nationalists&#8217; by &#8216;bashing&#8217; &#8230; other Ugandans???!!!  Mad!  Completely mad!!!</p>
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		By: Maazi NCO		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/12/21/un-restores-reference-to-sexual-orientation-in-violence-policy/#comment-93851</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maazi NCO]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Why do you seem to take such pleasure in bullying your gay compatriots? What is wrong with you?&lt;/blockquote&gt;



I take pleasure in doing my best to counter attempts by Western governments to complicate the problems of my nation by imposing a debased way of life on my people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Why do you seem to take such pleasure in bullying your gay compatriots? What is wrong with you?</p></blockquote>
<p>I take pleasure in doing my best to counter attempts by Western governments to complicate the problems of my nation by imposing a debased way of life on my people.</p>
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