Comments on: David Bahati: No action on Anti-Homosexuality Bill until after 2011 elections https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/12/02/ahb2011/ A [retired] college psychology professor's observations about public policy, mental health, sexual identity, and religious issues Wed, 30 May 2018 19:28:43 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.1.3 By: Richard Willmer https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/12/02/ahb2011/#comment-89450 Wed, 30 May 2018 19:28:43 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=8080#comment-89450 I’ve seen the odd edition. The hypocrisy of that and other similar papers is breathtaking! And the RP is government run (as is the Onion, I think).

Bahati’s probably looking for cash.

]]> By: Richard Willmer https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/12/02/ahb2011/#comment-89451 Wed, 30 May 2018 19:28:43 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=8080#comment-89451 Speech that can be shown to have been made ‘with the clear intention of inciting hatred’ is a criminal activity in the UK … so if Muhame had published his garbage in Britain, he would probably be behind bars – quite rightly, in my view – or (were he a non-resident) subject to detention pending deportation.

There is also ‘hate speech’ that cannot be shown to have been be INTENDED to incite hatred. This is not a criminal offence.

I think the distinction is a very important one.

]]> By: ken https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/12/02/ahb2011/#comment-89455 Wed, 30 May 2018 19:28:43 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=8080#comment-89455 I wonder if there will be any protests against Bahati and the other MPs at the conference.

]]> By: ken https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/12/02/ahb2011/#comment-89456 Wed, 30 May 2018 19:28:43 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=8080#comment-89456 Despite what some anti-hate crimes bill opponents say, there is no law against hate speech. Nor do I believe there should be.

However, I do hope Bahati goes on one of his anti-gay rants, because that will likely trigger a walk-out and serve to remind his ugandan constituents how his rabid anti-gay stance is hurting uganda.

]]> By: Fred Smith https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/12/02/ahb2011/#comment-89457 Wed, 30 May 2018 19:28:43 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=8080#comment-89457 Well firstly a travel ban should be considered by the state department, If Mrs Clinton can buttonhole the president for 45 minutes she can cancell his visa. If he does get there I hope his speeches are monitored for hate speech, its one thing to talk this rubbish in Uganda with impunity or even be considered a hero but if he says it in a jurisdiction where he can be held accountable its a different matter. Perhaps the Mayor can give him a few tips about the US judicial system, and of course how to hold his soap when showering in jail!!!!!

]]> By: Richard Willmer https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/12/02/ahb2011/#comment-89459 Wed, 30 May 2018 19:28:43 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=8080#comment-89459 Another point: what right do people like Ssempa have to spew lies and hatred against gay people when around two-thirds of women in UG say they have experienced violence and/or abuse at the hands of their (heterosexual) male partners?

http://www.independent.co.ug/index.php/column/comment/70-comment/3684-16-days-of-activism-against-gender-based-violence

NONE AT ALL!

]]> By: Doug Hadden https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/12/02/ahb2011/#comment-89462 Wed, 30 May 2018 19:28:43 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=8080#comment-89462 As described in the update, ICGFM will not be allowing Mr. Bahati to attend the conference. ICGFM is a non profit organization promoting good goverance in public financial management. As many of you may know, good goverance has been linked in developing countries to improved outcomes – reduced poverty, increased economic development and improved human rights.

ICGFM, by its very nature and mission, is very un-politcal. That’s not to say that the organization doesn’t tackle government-oriented operational issues that are considered controversial such as public private partnerships, gender-based budgeting, and the move to accrual accounting. So, you imagine the shock to the executive committee and board of directors at this political situation that is orders of magnitude more controversial and unhelpful than we have ever encountered!

There has been some consternation in the blogosphere about how Mr. Bahati was able to get a US Visa. I can tell you that some thought leaders in the domain are not able to receive Visas for the Miami or Washington conferences.

I hope that Mr. Bahati did not cynically leverage the standard Visa information that the organization publishes on the icgfm.org web site in antipation of visitors from 30 to 40 countries for some other nefarious political gains. (I’m still wondering whether his announcement of attending the conference is part of the plan – perhaps I’m getting a touch paranoid.)

This is a personal opinion – having protests outside the venue might increase his political capital at home. Or, the entry into the United States may have been motivated by a need to meet with political allies.

Suffice it to say that the organization membership is made up of some of the most unpolitical people you will ever meet. Who generally have rather moderate and learned views.

]]> By: leonardo ricardo https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/12/02/ahb2011/#comment-89463 Wed, 30 May 2018 19:28:43 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=8080#comment-89463 Uganda takes pride in their heterosexually hedonistic acting out–please search/read the Red Pepper Tabloid, Uganda on any day–meanwhile Bahati is coming to the U.S., Washington D.C., no doubt to also enjoy some meet ups with his Dominionist/¨K¨ Street pals (for *encouragement* and further plotting).

]]> By: Doug Hadden https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/12/02/ahb2011/#comment-44977 Sat, 04 Dec 2010 18:04:17 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=8080#comment-44977 As described in the update, ICGFM will not be allowing Mr. Bahati to attend the conference. ICGFM is a non profit organization promoting good goverance in public financial management. As many of you may know, good goverance has been linked in developing countries to improved outcomes – reduced poverty, increased economic development and improved human rights.

ICGFM, by its very nature and mission, is very un-politcal. That’s not to say that the organization doesn’t tackle government-oriented operational issues that are considered controversial such as public private partnerships, gender-based budgeting, and the move to accrual accounting. So, you imagine the shock to the executive committee and board of directors at this political situation that is orders of magnitude more controversial and unhelpful than we have ever encountered!

There has been some consternation in the blogosphere about how Mr. Bahati was able to get a US Visa. I can tell you that some thought leaders in the domain are not able to receive Visas for the Miami or Washington conferences.

I hope that Mr. Bahati did not cynically leverage the standard Visa information that the organization publishes on the icgfm.org web site in antipation of visitors from 30 to 40 countries for some other nefarious political gains. (I’m still wondering whether his announcement of attending the conference is part of the plan – perhaps I’m getting a touch paranoid.)

This is a personal opinion – having protests outside the venue might increase his political capital at home. Or, the entry into the United States may have been motivated by a need to meet with political allies.

Suffice it to say that the organization membership is made up of some of the most unpolitical people you will ever meet. Who generally have rather moderate and learned views.

]]> By: Richard Willmer https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/12/02/ahb2011/#comment-44976 Fri, 03 Dec 2010 08:52:29 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=8080#comment-44976 I’ve seen the odd edition. The hypocrisy of that and other similar papers is breathtaking! And the RP is government run (as is the Onion, I think).

Bahati’s probably looking for cash.

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