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		By: Jayhuck		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[I find it amusing that the groups listed by the SPLC don&#039;t address the charges, they only cry foul!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it amusing that the groups listed by the SPLC don&#8217;t address the charges, they only cry foul!</p>
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		By: Zoe Brain		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s all about the Benjamins.



I can fight honest opponents, those who genuinely believe even the most awful and completely false things about GLBT people, and still respect them. They&#039;re not evil, merely misguided, though they may do terrible harm.



My scorn is reserved for those who are in it to &quot;activate the base&quot; and bring in the money to &quot;fight the evil Gay Agenda&quot;. And believe me, the religion game is very, very lucrative.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s all about the Benjamins.</p>
<p>I can fight honest opponents, those who genuinely believe even the most awful and completely false things about GLBT people, and still respect them. They&#8217;re not evil, merely misguided, though they may do terrible harm.</p>
<p>My scorn is reserved for those who are in it to &#8220;activate the base&#8221; and bring in the money to &#8220;fight the evil Gay Agenda&#8221;. And believe me, the religion game is very, very lucrative.</p>
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		By: Zoe Brain		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 19:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;I don&#039;t want to reach the evil f*ckers and give them more information, to teach them how to con more Lesbians. I want them gone permanently. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://wewillnot.wordpress.com/2010/11/30/wtf-is-with-the-intersex-comments/#comment-1028 - Bev Jo



&lt;blockquote&gt;There are no words to describe them. There are tiny parasitic wasps who paralyse small animals (spiders, caterpillars, etc.) and lay their eggs on them, so the animal is alive while being slowing eaten by the growing baby. But the wasps aren&#039;t deliberately cruel. These men remind me of a deliberately female-hating version of that. They&#039;ve prove what I&#039;ve been saying for decades &#8212; they are more female-hating than even many het men. The character in Silence of the Lambs who skinned women to wear really seems more accurate all the time.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

http://wewillnot.wordpress.com/2010/11/30/wtf-is-with-the-intersex-comments/#comment-1022 



&lt;blockquote&gt;...they&#039;re the ones who kept taking about violence and murder. But really, they should be careful about giving some angry women those ideas.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



&lt;blockquote&gt;They expect we&#039;ll be shocked to see statistics about them being killed, and don&#039;t realize, some of us wish they would ALL be dead.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



That&#039;s Nazism.



It&#039;s also Radical Feminist Lesbian Separatists talking about Trans and Intersexed people.



Mary Daly&#039;s book &quot;Gyn/Ecology&quot; is still a standard text taught in Gender Studies classes around the world.



Some quotes of hers about Trans people:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Dionysus sometimes assumed a girl-like form. The phenomenon of the drag queen dramatically demonstrates such boundary violation. Like whites playing &quot;black face,&quot; he incorporates the oppressed role without being incorporated in it. In the phenomenon of transsexualism, the incorporation/confusion is deeper. As ethicist Janice Raymond has pointed out, the majority of transsexuals are &quot;male to female,&quot; while transsexed females basically function as tokens, and are used by the rulers of the transsexual empire to hide the real nature of the game. In transsexualism, males put on &quot;female&quot; bodies (which are in fact pseudofemale)....

...

The Dionysian solution for women, which is violation of our own Hag-ocratic boundaries, is The Final Solution.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

She&#039;s not talking metaphorically. She means extermination &quot;disinfection&quot; as she put it elsewhere.



&lt;blockquote&gt;Today the Frankenstein phenomenon is omnipresent not only in religious myth, but in its offspring, phallocratic technology. The insane desire for power, the madness of boundary violation, is the mark of necrophiliacs who sense the lack of soul/spirit/life-loving principle with themselves and therefore try to invade and kill off all spirit, substituting conglomerates of corpses. This necrophilic invasion/elimination takes a variety of forms. Transsexualism is an example of male surgical siring which invades the female world with substitutes.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Hence their extermination is not just justified, but a positive virtue.



&lt;blockquote&gt;The transsexually constructed lesbian-feminist feeds off woman&#039;s true energy source, i.e. her woman-identified self. It is he who recognises that if female spirit, mind, creativity and sexuality exist anywhere in a powerful way it is here, among lesbian-feminists.



    I contend that the problem with transsexualism would best be served by morally mandating it out of existence.&lt;/blockquote&gt; - Janice Raymond &quot;The Transsexual Empire&quot;



They don&#039;t make it easy for me to fight for Human Rights for &lt;strong&gt;all&lt;/strong&gt; GLB people, do they?



Substitute a few tokens, so it talks about Jews leeching the healthy Life-Spirit of Aryans, and it&#039;s straight out of &lt;i&gt;Die Stuermer&lt;/i&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I don&#8217;t want to reach the evil f*ckers and give them more information, to teach them how to con more Lesbians. I want them gone permanently. </p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://wewillnot.wordpress.com/2010/11/30/wtf-is-with-the-intersex-comments/#comment-1028" rel="nofollow ugc">http://wewillnot.wordpress.com/2010/11/30/wtf-is-with-the-intersex-comments/#comment-1028</a> &#8211; Bev Jo</p>
<blockquote><p>There are no words to describe them. There are tiny parasitic wasps who paralyse small animals (spiders, caterpillars, etc.) and lay their eggs on them, so the animal is alive while being slowing eaten by the growing baby. But the wasps aren&#8217;t deliberately cruel. These men remind me of a deliberately female-hating version of that. They&#8217;ve prove what I&#8217;ve been saying for decades &#8212; they are more female-hating than even many het men. The character in Silence of the Lambs who skinned women to wear really seems more accurate all the time.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://wewillnot.wordpress.com/2010/11/30/wtf-is-with-the-intersex-comments/#comment-1022" rel="nofollow ugc">http://wewillnot.wordpress.com/2010/11/30/wtf-is-with-the-intersex-comments/#comment-1022</a> </p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;they&#8217;re the ones who kept taking about violence and murder. But really, they should be careful about giving some angry women those ideas.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>They expect we&#8217;ll be shocked to see statistics about them being killed, and don&#8217;t realize, some of us wish they would ALL be dead.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s Nazism.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also Radical Feminist Lesbian Separatists talking about Trans and Intersexed people.</p>
<p>Mary Daly&#8217;s book &#8220;Gyn/Ecology&#8221; is still a standard text taught in Gender Studies classes around the world.</p>
<p>Some quotes of hers about Trans people:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Dionysus sometimes assumed a girl-like form. The phenomenon of the drag queen dramatically demonstrates such boundary violation. Like whites playing &#8220;black face,&#8221; he incorporates the oppressed role without being incorporated in it. In the phenomenon of transsexualism, the incorporation/confusion is deeper. As ethicist Janice Raymond has pointed out, the majority of transsexuals are &#8220;male to female,&#8221; while transsexed females basically function as tokens, and are used by the rulers of the transsexual empire to hide the real nature of the game. In transsexualism, males put on &#8220;female&#8221; bodies (which are in fact pseudofemale)&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>The Dionysian solution for women, which is violation of our own Hag-ocratic boundaries, is The Final Solution.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>She&#8217;s not talking metaphorically. She means extermination &#8220;disinfection&#8221; as she put it elsewhere.</p>
<blockquote><p>Today the Frankenstein phenomenon is omnipresent not only in religious myth, but in its offspring, phallocratic technology. The insane desire for power, the madness of boundary violation, is the mark of necrophiliacs who sense the lack of soul/spirit/life-loving principle with themselves and therefore try to invade and kill off all spirit, substituting conglomerates of corpses. This necrophilic invasion/elimination takes a variety of forms. Transsexualism is an example of male surgical siring which invades the female world with substitutes.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Hence their extermination is not just justified, but a positive virtue.</p>
<blockquote><p>The transsexually constructed lesbian-feminist feeds off woman&#8217;s true energy source, i.e. her woman-identified self. It is he who recognises that if female spirit, mind, creativity and sexuality exist anywhere in a powerful way it is here, among lesbian-feminists.</p>
<p>    I contend that the problem with transsexualism would best be served by morally mandating it out of existence.</p></blockquote>
<p> &#8211; Janice Raymond &#8220;The Transsexual Empire&#8221;</p>
<p>They don&#8217;t make it easy for me to fight for Human Rights for <strong>all</strong> GLB people, do they?</p>
<p>Substitute a few tokens, so it talks about Jews leeching the healthy Life-Spirit of Aryans, and it&#8217;s straight out of <i>Die Stuermer</i>.</p>
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		By: ken		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 19:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Julie,



Can you name any of these gay rights groups you think deserve to be on a SPLC hate-groups list?  Can you give any specific examples (and cite some references) of what these groups have done that you think makes them eligible to be on such a list?  If you can give some reasonable, verifiable specifics I think Warren would be willing to create a discussion thread on whether such groups should or should not be on an SPLC hate-groups list.  If you do provide those specifics I would certainly be willing to petition Warren to do so.  



However, until then, if you don&#039;t feel that some of the groups the SPLC has recently added should be on the list, then perhaps you should stick to discussing what you disagree with in the SPLCs rational for adding them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie,</p>
<p>Can you name any of these gay rights groups you think deserve to be on a SPLC hate-groups list?  Can you give any specific examples (and cite some references) of what these groups have done that you think makes them eligible to be on such a list?  If you can give some reasonable, verifiable specifics I think Warren would be willing to create a discussion thread on whether such groups should or should not be on an SPLC hate-groups list.  If you do provide those specifics I would certainly be willing to petition Warren to do so.  </p>
<p>However, until then, if you don&#8217;t feel that some of the groups the SPLC has recently added should be on the list, then perhaps you should stick to discussing what you disagree with in the SPLCs rational for adding them.</p>
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		By: Warren		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 19:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/11/28/splchatelistnazicard/#comment-88038&quot;&gt;Julie&lt;/a&gt;.

I think Julie raises a valid concern. My guess is if there was a gay group or any other group that called for Christians to be put in prison, said they were inherently diseased and deficient, molested children at dangerously high rates, were inherently dangerous to children, and responsible for the Holocaust (there were a lot of Christians in the Nazi party), then I bet the SPLC would place that group on the list.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/11/28/splchatelistnazicard/#comment-88038">Julie</a>.</p>
<p>I think Julie raises a valid concern. My guess is if there was a gay group or any other group that called for Christians to be put in prison, said they were inherently diseased and deficient, molested children at dangerously high rates, were inherently dangerous to children, and responsible for the Holocaust (there were a lot of Christians in the Nazi party), then I bet the SPLC would place that group on the list.</p>
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