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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[The central point is, of course, that the &#039;hate campaign&#039; against LGBT persons in UG is based on lies (or, to put it more politely, &#039;opinion&#039; presented as &#039;fact&#039;).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The central point is, of course, that the &#8216;hate campaign&#8217; against LGBT persons in UG is based on lies (or, to put it more politely, &#8216;opinion&#8217; presented as &#8216;fact&#8217;).</p>
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		By: sweetza		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[I still insist, Ugandan parliament sitting to discuss homosexuality-a human relations issue, is equal to a village meeting held by pigymies(read batwa)-one of the most primitive tribes,in the forests of Congo, and Western Uganda. Sick homophobics like  Martin Sempa, his group of idle friends like David Bahati, Solomon Male, and all the young people that have been misled in their so called church at Makerere are a disgrace!

This is clearly a hate campaign filled with jealous of those ahead of them, Really are hate crime&#039;  agitators worthy of anyones ear? I wonder whether these people preach in church! Let Sempa gain extra-terestrial powers and find out about his older son, i hope he wont disown him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still insist, Ugandan parliament sitting to discuss homosexuality-a human relations issue, is equal to a village meeting held by pigymies(read batwa)-one of the most primitive tribes,in the forests of Congo, and Western Uganda. Sick homophobics like  Martin Sempa, his group of idle friends like David Bahati, Solomon Male, and all the young people that have been misled in their so called church at Makerere are a disgrace!</p>
<p>This is clearly a hate campaign filled with jealous of those ahead of them, Really are hate crime&#8217;  agitators worthy of anyones ear? I wonder whether these people preach in church! Let Sempa gain extra-terestrial powers and find out about his older son, i hope he wont disown him.</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Is there some &#039;problem&#039; with Ssempa&#039;s son?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there some &#8216;problem&#8217; with Ssempa&#8217;s son?</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/11/24/ugandan-coalition-supports-rolling-stone-hang-them-campaign/#comment-93135</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 20:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Maazi

Why should people say that Rick Warren is your godfather?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maazi</p>
<p>Why should people say that Rick Warren is your godfather?</p>
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		By: Maazi NCO		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Richard &#8211; I agree it is tasteless and cowardly to assert such positions under cover, but it is how I have arranged things and up until recently it has served the effort well. 



I am in a dilemma of sorts. Some in the community here want Maazi NCO banned because he consistently makes claims which are either provably false or without evidence. His views on homosexuality are pre-scientific and his attitudes toward gay people frightening. However, they are a window into the thinking of many of his fellows and as such a starting point for us to understand how many Ugandans of faith and no faith see sexuality. And for that reason and others, others in the community do not want to see him (and others proclaiming similar views) banned. 



I want to assure my readers that I am committed to opposition of criminalization of homosexuality and that there is no sense in my mind that we are arguing equivalent views. Understanding the extreme biases demonstrated by some of the commenters is an important means it seems to me to a better end.



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Warren, 



You can do whatever you like. This is your blog after all. Westerners are shameless hypocrites---always quick to denounce others for not intolerance while they are themselves intolerant. Always quick to demand democracy in one nation where they have no vested interests while turning blind eye  or propping dictatorships in other nations where they have vested interest in energy, economy, etc.



 No matter what happens thereafter, I am satisfied that I have done my best to represent the views of the overwhelming majority of the Ugandan people. We shall not be intimidated into adopting deviant sexual culture from your western nations. Richard, you will wait for your entire life span and never get to witness gay pride march in Uganda. Neither would you ever come here for exotic same-sex marriage ceremonies or gay adoption events. In Uganda, we are not interested in debating whether we should continue criminalization or decriminalization of gayism.  We are only debating the scope and scale of punishment that is appropriate for that particular deviant sexual behaviour----  hence the condemnation of extreme tactics employed by Red Pepper and co and extreme provisions of the original Bahati Bill.



 And No!!--- I will not provide you with a name. It is not because I am afraid. I am not at all, since my express my views openly over here. However, I do not wish gay propagandists such as yourself to twist and twist and twist my identity. I do not wish to read the Western newspapers and see euro-american gay lobbyists lie that Pastor Rick Warren is my Godfather and that I am the public relations officer of so-called powerful christian group, The Family (or is it the Addams Family?)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Richard &#8211; I agree it is tasteless and cowardly to assert such positions under cover, but it is how I have arranged things and up until recently it has served the effort well. </p>
<p>I am in a dilemma of sorts. Some in the community here want Maazi NCO banned because he consistently makes claims which are either provably false or without evidence. His views on homosexuality are pre-scientific and his attitudes toward gay people frightening. However, they are a window into the thinking of many of his fellows and as such a starting point for us to understand how many Ugandans of faith and no faith see sexuality. And for that reason and others, others in the community do not want to see him (and others proclaiming similar views) banned. </p>
<p>I want to assure my readers that I am committed to opposition of criminalization of homosexuality and that there is no sense in my mind that we are arguing equivalent views. Understanding the extreme biases demonstrated by some of the commenters is an important means it seems to me to a better end.</p>
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<p>Warren, </p>
<p>You can do whatever you like. This is your blog after all. Westerners are shameless hypocrites&#8212;always quick to denounce others for not intolerance while they are themselves intolerant. Always quick to demand democracy in one nation where they have no vested interests while turning blind eye  or propping dictatorships in other nations where they have vested interest in energy, economy, etc.</p>
<p> No matter what happens thereafter, I am satisfied that I have done my best to represent the views of the overwhelming majority of the Ugandan people. We shall not be intimidated into adopting deviant sexual culture from your western nations. Richard, you will wait for your entire life span and never get to witness gay pride march in Uganda. Neither would you ever come here for exotic same-sex marriage ceremonies or gay adoption events. In Uganda, we are not interested in debating whether we should continue criminalization or decriminalization of gayism.  We are only debating the scope and scale of punishment that is appropriate for that particular deviant sexual behaviour&#8212;-  hence the condemnation of extreme tactics employed by Red Pepper and co and extreme provisions of the original Bahati Bill.</p>
<p> And No!!&#8212; I will not provide you with a name. It is not because I am afraid. I am not at all, since my express my views openly over here. However, I do not wish gay propagandists such as yourself to twist and twist and twist my identity. I do not wish to read the Western newspapers and see euro-american gay lobbyists lie that Pastor Rick Warren is my Godfather and that I am the public relations officer of so-called powerful christian group, The Family (or is it the Addams Family?)</p>
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