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		By: ken		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Debbie Thurman#   ~ Nov 11, 2010 at 12:21 pm  



&quot;And how much is also due to things beyond man&#039;s control and is cyclical, as history also records? &quot;



what &quot;things beyond man&#039;s control&quot; are you referring to Debbie?  For the last hundred years (coinciding with the industrialization of the world) the ave. world temperatures have been increasing, and these temperatures are beyond any previous ave. temps (with the exception of Esper 2002 study) estimated for over the last 1000 years.  



NOAA has an overview and references you can look at here: 



http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/globalwarming/paleolast.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Debbie Thurman#   ~ Nov 11, 2010 at 12:21 pm  </p>
<p>&#8220;And how much is also due to things beyond man&#8217;s control and is cyclical, as history also records? &#8221;</p>
<p>what &#8220;things beyond man&#8217;s control&#8221; are you referring to Debbie?  For the last hundred years (coinciding with the industrialization of the world) the ave. world temperatures have been increasing, and these temperatures are beyond any previous ave. temps (with the exception of Esper 2002 study) estimated for over the last 1000 years.  </p>
<p>NOAA has an overview and references you can look at here: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/globalwarming/paleolast.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/globalwarming/paleolast.html</a></p>
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		By: Warren		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[MB - Nice one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MB &#8211; Nice one.</p>
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		By: Mary Beth		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary Beth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 20:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dear Warren Throckmorton:



As a Christian, I am very offended by this supposedly humorous post.  The Lord will not be mocked.



Bible-believing Christians know that grizzly bears are favored instruments of the Lord and would never be left off of the ark. The Bible clearly teaches us that our Lord sent female bears to kill 42 boys who made wise cracks about the prophet Elisha&#039;s baldness.  



I have read other posts on your blog, and it distresses me to see that as a professed Christian you would waste so much time and energy weeping over 5 dead sinful children, when our Lord killed more than 8 times as many in one fell swoop.  I urge you to repent, bring yourself back under the authority of our Lord and Savior, and celebrate the deaths of sinful and disobedient children.





2 Kings 2:23-25 



&quot;He went up from there to Bethel, and while he was going up on the way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him, saying, &quot;Go up, you baldhead! Go up, you baldhead!&quot; And he turned around, and when he saw them, he cursed them in the name of the LORD. And two she-bears came out of the woods and tore forty-two of the boys.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Warren Throckmorton:</p>
<p>As a Christian, I am very offended by this supposedly humorous post.  The Lord will not be mocked.</p>
<p>Bible-believing Christians know that grizzly bears are favored instruments of the Lord and would never be left off of the ark. The Bible clearly teaches us that our Lord sent female bears to kill 42 boys who made wise cracks about the prophet Elisha&#8217;s baldness.  </p>
<p>I have read other posts on your blog, and it distresses me to see that as a professed Christian you would waste so much time and energy weeping over 5 dead sinful children, when our Lord killed more than 8 times as many in one fell swoop.  I urge you to repent, bring yourself back under the authority of our Lord and Savior, and celebrate the deaths of sinful and disobedient children.</p>
<p>2 Kings 2:23-25 </p>
<p>&#8220;He went up from there to Bethel, and while he was going up on the way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him, saying, &#8220;Go up, you baldhead! Go up, you baldhead!&#8221; And he turned around, and when he saw them, he cursed them in the name of the LORD. And two she-bears came out of the woods and tore forty-two of the boys.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Timothy Kincaid		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[And I guess &quot;the Left&quot; also includes the 31% of gay folk who told exit polls that they voted Republican this year.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I guess &#8220;the Left&#8221; also includes the 31% of gay folk who told exit polls that they voted Republican this year.</p>
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		By: Debbie Thurman		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Lame attempts at humor, spoof &quot;



I&#039;m pretty sure Warren made up the &quot;quote&quot; to point out Fischer&#039;s extreme (and foolish) stance on the bear population in Yellowstone.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



OK, but why? There is enough real stuff to talk about. It doesn&#039;t become you, Warren. These temptations are one of the downsides to blogging. You have a shotgun approach to topics that are currently being discussed right now. So much so, in fact, that I am compelled to lay off all of it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;Lame attempts at humor, spoof &#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure Warren made up the &#8220;quote&#8221; to point out Fischer&#8217;s extreme (and foolish) stance on the bear population in Yellowstone.</p></blockquote>
<p>OK, but why? There is enough real stuff to talk about. It doesn&#8217;t become you, Warren. These temptations are one of the downsides to blogging. You have a shotgun approach to topics that are currently being discussed right now. So much so, in fact, that I am compelled to lay off all of it.</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[What about partitions in the ark?  That should solve the problem, shouldn&#039;t it?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about partitions in the ark?  That should solve the problem, shouldn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		By: Warren		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[I guess it was so close to something Fischer might actually do and say that it needed a preface. 



It is a spoof. Fischer does however, want to kill all grizzlies, including the Berenstain Bears (well, maybe not them, I don&#039;t know for sure).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it was so close to something Fischer might actually do and say that it needed a preface. </p>
<p>It is a spoof. Fischer does however, want to kill all grizzlies, including the Berenstain Bears (well, maybe not them, I don&#8217;t know for sure).</p>
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		By: Lynn David		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynn David]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Is conservation of natural resources, the environment and ecology a liberal or conservative value?    Does making it a value of one &#039;side&#039; mean it cannot be a value of the other?    I don&#039;t think so and I imagine a great part of America thinks the same and not as Fischer. 

.

On the other hand I once stayed in West Yellowstone and the people in the cabin next to me made the mistake of leaving food in their car.   A grizzly did a good job on the car getting inside.  And residents there regularly have problems with bears.  But if you are going to live in close proximity to nature in its rawest, you have to learn how to cope.  Heck, I&#039;ve even had a buck, hopped up on its hormones of the fall rut, go after my pickup as I drove through the meadow out back of the house.   It&#039;s not just the carnivores you have to look out for sometimes. 

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is conservation of natural resources, the environment and ecology a liberal or conservative value?    Does making it a value of one &#8216;side&#8217; mean it cannot be a value of the other?    I don&#8217;t think so and I imagine a great part of America thinks the same and not as Fischer. </p>
<p>.</p>
<p>On the other hand I once stayed in West Yellowstone and the people in the cabin next to me made the mistake of leaving food in their car.   A grizzly did a good job on the car getting inside.  And residents there regularly have problems with bears.  But if you are going to live in close proximity to nature in its rawest, you have to learn how to cope.  Heck, I&#8217;ve even had a buck, hopped up on its hormones of the fall rut, go after my pickup as I drove through the meadow out back of the house.   It&#8217;s not just the carnivores you have to look out for sometimes. </p>
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		By: JayH		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;My conversations with politically liberal psychologists on the left have several times confirmed this hypothesis: that although they believe that a wide variety of traditional values have immense benefit for the culture, it is frightening to openly express such views, or to openly challenge non-traditional values to change the culture.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Not exactly my experience.  Of the psychology professors I have had through the years and the psychologists I have worked with, all have openly expressed their desire for a best-of-both-worlds approach.  A willingness to discuss the traditional values that they believe are beneficial for a culture, and the non-traditional values they believe are also beneficial.  



Usually, when people use the terms Right or Left they are talking about people on the political extremes of those ends - granted, not always. It tends to be the people on the extreme ends that don&#039;t want to hear what the other has to say or dismiss things outright.  I  would hope that thinking individuals, people who are more moderate, compassionate and understanding in thier view of the world, would get together and discuss the benefits of both traditional and non-traditional values for the culture.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>My conversations with politically liberal psychologists on the left have several times confirmed this hypothesis: that although they believe that a wide variety of traditional values have immense benefit for the culture, it is frightening to openly express such views, or to openly challenge non-traditional values to change the culture.</p></blockquote>
<p>Not exactly my experience.  Of the psychology professors I have had through the years and the psychologists I have worked with, all have openly expressed their desire for a best-of-both-worlds approach.  A willingness to discuss the traditional values that they believe are beneficial for a culture, and the non-traditional values they believe are also beneficial.  </p>
<p>Usually, when people use the terms Right or Left they are talking about people on the political extremes of those ends &#8211; granted, not always. It tends to be the people on the extreme ends that don&#8217;t want to hear what the other has to say or dismiss things outright.  I  would hope that thinking individuals, people who are more moderate, compassionate and understanding in thier view of the world, would get together and discuss the benefits of both traditional and non-traditional values for the culture.</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[If he is being serious, Fischer does not understand the concept of an sustainable ecosystem.  He was having a laugh, surely!  Surely?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he is being serious, Fischer does not understand the concept of an sustainable ecosystem.  He was having a laugh, surely!  Surely?</p>
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