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		By: ken		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 21:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Only if they all contracted laryngitis on that day Michael.  Although, if that did happen, I&#039;d say someone was sending them a pretty clear message :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only if they all contracted laryngitis on that day Michael.  Although, if that did happen, I&#8217;d say someone was sending them a pretty clear message 🙂</p>
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		By: Michael Bussee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Bussee]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Now let&#039;s see them participate in the Day Of Silence.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now let&#8217;s see them participate in the Day Of Silence.</p>
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		By: stephanie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stephanie]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mr. Bussee: Exodus will never be what you want it to be. But I am surprised that your only reaction avoids giving them some credit for this move.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Bussee: Exodus will never be what you want it to be. But I am surprised that your only reaction avoids giving them some credit for this move.</p>
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		By: Michael Bussee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Bussee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 19:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I actually sent the flowers and a nice letter -- and a phone call of thanks -- when they finally adopted their anti-bullying policy.  They did not respond.  I



 also gave them high praise -- and defended them against critics -- when they officially opposed the Ugandan Law and finally officially opposed criminalization of homosexual acts between consenting adults.  I posted my thanks, called Alan personally and sent letters of thanks.



I try to give credit and encouragement when it is deserved.  It&#039;s just that on this issue, I do not trust the motivation, especially given how resistant Exodus was to adopting their policy against bullying.  Yes, a good step.  A change in direction for Exodus?  I sincerely hope so.  Time will tell.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually sent the flowers and a nice letter &#8212; and a phone call of thanks &#8212; when they finally adopted their anti-bullying policy.  They did not respond.  I</p>
<p> also gave them high praise &#8212; and defended them against critics &#8212; when they officially opposed the Ugandan Law and finally officially opposed criminalization of homosexual acts between consenting adults.  I posted my thanks, called Alan personally and sent letters of thanks.</p>
<p>I try to give credit and encouragement when it is deserved.  It&#8217;s just that on this issue, I do not trust the motivation, especially given how resistant Exodus was to adopting their policy against bullying.  Yes, a good step.  A change in direction for Exodus?  I sincerely hope so.  Time will tell.</p>
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		By: Michael Bussee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Bussee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 19:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;If Exodus &#038; crew want to say that God calls all his children to celibacy until marriage &#8211; no problem with me&lt;/blockquote&gt;I have no problem with the &quot;I choose to be celibate and so can you&quot; message.  



I have problem with the &quot;fine print&quot; -- Celibacy is possible -- and you &lt;em&gt;must choose that &lt;/em&gt;or attempt heterosexual marriage because gay sex is always evil and  -- or else  -- you will land you in Hell in you don&#039;t repent&quot;.



I have a problem with gayness is &quot;broken&quot;, gay love is &quot;counterfeit&quot;, &quot;homosexuality will always disappoint you&quot;, is always a &quot;sinful behavior&quot;, &quot;there is no such thing as actually having a homosexual orientation&quot;.  No such thing as a gay person.



Gay people are incapable of real love  -- Andy comiskey&#039;s message.  Choosing to not have gay sex?  Fine.  Telling other people that they are not really Christian, not really saved, headed for Hell?  Not so fine.  



Yes, I also am glad that Exodus has moved away from its Day of Truth stance -- but have they really decided not to be adversarial regarding bullying, or did they just have to cut some programs due to budget constraints and PR concerns?  I suppose I should be happy either way -- but I remain highly skeptical of Exodus&#039; recent procouncements.



Why, why did they not already have a firm, official policy against bullying?  Wht did they have to be pushed?  They had to be pushed about this issue.  They had to be pushed about Uganda and criminalization -- until finally, inaction and silence became such a  public embarassment that they had to do something.  I simply do not trust this as far as I could throw it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If Exodus &#038; crew want to say that God calls all his children to celibacy until marriage &#8211; no problem with me</p></blockquote>
<p>I have no problem with the &#8220;I choose to be celibate and so can you&#8221; message.  </p>
<p>I have problem with the &#8220;fine print&#8221; &#8212; Celibacy is possible &#8212; and you <em>must choose that </em>or attempt heterosexual marriage because gay sex is always evil and  &#8212; or else  &#8212; you will land you in Hell in you don&#8217;t repent&#8221;.</p>
<p>I have a problem with gayness is &#8220;broken&#8221;, gay love is &#8220;counterfeit&#8221;, &#8220;homosexuality will always disappoint you&#8221;, is always a &#8220;sinful behavior&#8221;, &#8220;there is no such thing as actually having a homosexual orientation&#8221;.  No such thing as a gay person.</p>
<p>Gay people are incapable of real love  &#8212; Andy comiskey&#8217;s message.  Choosing to not have gay sex?  Fine.  Telling other people that they are not really Christian, not really saved, headed for Hell?  Not so fine.  </p>
<p>Yes, I also am glad that Exodus has moved away from its Day of Truth stance &#8212; but have they really decided not to be adversarial regarding bullying, or did they just have to cut some programs due to budget constraints and PR concerns?  I suppose I should be happy either way &#8212; but I remain highly skeptical of Exodus&#8217; recent procouncements.</p>
<p>Why, why did they not already have a firm, official policy against bullying?  Wht did they have to be pushed?  They had to be pushed about this issue.  They had to be pushed about Uganda and criminalization &#8212; until finally, inaction and silence became such a  public embarassment that they had to do something.  I simply do not trust this as far as I could throw it.</p>
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