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		By: Michael Bussee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Bussee]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[More about the mission and goals of the Turtle Creek Chorale and the &quot;Night for Peace&quot; concert:&lt;blockquote&gt;On Monday, the 300-plus member Partners in Harmony chorus &#8212; including the Turtle Creek Chorale, the SMU Meadows School of the Arts Chorale and Concert Choir, the Dallas Wind Symphony and singers from more than 40 religious organizations &#8212; will perform three peace anthems for A Night of Peace.



&quot;Seven years ago, the Turtle Creek Chorale began Partners in Harmony to solicit religious organizations in the area to sign a piece of paper affirming the belief that all people are created equal regardless of sexual orientation,&quot; says Jonathan Palant, the chorale&#039;s artistic director. &quot;Fast forward six years, and nothing other than this piece of paper really had been done with our Partners in Harmony.&quot;



Last year, the chorale invited singers from 45 religious institutions &#8212; synagogues, Baptist churches, Unitarian churches &#8212; to join it onstage for one performance. It ended up being a surprising show of unity between religious organizations and the gay community.&lt;/blockquote&gt;





http://www.turtlecreek.org/index.php?/tcc/newspost/giving_peace_a_change/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More about the mission and goals of the Turtle Creek Chorale and the &#8220;Night for Peace&#8221; concert:</p>
<blockquote><p>On Monday, the 300-plus member Partners in Harmony chorus &#8212; including the Turtle Creek Chorale, the SMU Meadows School of the Arts Chorale and Concert Choir, the Dallas Wind Symphony and singers from more than 40 religious organizations &#8212; will perform three peace anthems for A Night of Peace.</p>
<p>&#8220;Seven years ago, the Turtle Creek Chorale began Partners in Harmony to solicit religious organizations in the area to sign a piece of paper affirming the belief that all people are created equal regardless of sexual orientation,&#8221; says Jonathan Palant, the chorale&#8217;s artistic director. &#8220;Fast forward six years, and nothing other than this piece of paper really had been done with our Partners in Harmony.&#8221;</p>
<p>Last year, the chorale invited singers from 45 religious institutions &#8212; synagogues, Baptist churches, Unitarian churches &#8212; to join it onstage for one performance. It ended up being a surprising show of unity between religious organizations and the gay community.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.turtlecreek.org/index.php?/tcc/newspost/giving_peace_a_change/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.turtlecreek.org/index.php?/tcc/newspost/giving_peace_a_change/</a></p>
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		By: Eddy		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/10/05/cnn-a-christians-response-to-anti-gay-bullying/#comment-89856</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eddy]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[One of my nephews just posted &quot;Why the #$%&#038; are people so gay?&quot; on facebook. I posted a link to the Wanda Sykes &quot;That&#039;s so gay&quot; PSA in response. We&#039;ll see if he leaves it there or blocks it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my nephews just posted &#8220;Why the #$%&#038; are people so gay?&#8221; on facebook. I posted a link to the Wanda Sykes &#8220;That&#8217;s so gay&#8221; PSA in response. We&#8217;ll see if he leaves it there or blocks it.</p>
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		By: Michael Bussee		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/10/05/cnn-a-christians-response-to-anti-gay-bullying/#comment-89861</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Bussee]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;The White House Blog -- President Obama: &quot;It Gets Better&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;This is personal to me. When I was a young adult, I faced the jokes and taunting that too many of our youth face today, and I considered suicide as a way out.  But I was fortunate.  One of my co-workers recognized that I was hurting, and I soon confided in her.  She cared enough to push me to seek help.  She saved my life.  I will always be grateful for her compassion and support &#8211; the same compassion and support that so many kids need today. 



In the wake of these terrible tragedies, thousands of Americans have come together to share their stories of hope and encouragement for LGBT youth who are struggling as part of the It Gets Better Project.  Their messages are simple: no matter how difficult or hopeless life may seem when you&#039;re a young person who&#039;s been tormented by your peers or feels like you don&#039;t fit in: life will get better.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Watch his &quot;It gets better&quot; video here:



http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/10/21/president-obama-it-gets-better]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The White House Blog &#8212; President Obama: &#8220;It Gets Better&#8221;</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>This is personal to me. When I was a young adult, I faced the jokes and taunting that too many of our youth face today, and I considered suicide as a way out.  But I was fortunate.  One of my co-workers recognized that I was hurting, and I soon confided in her.  She cared enough to push me to seek help.  She saved my life.  I will always be grateful for her compassion and support &#8211; the same compassion and support that so many kids need today. </p>
<p>In the wake of these terrible tragedies, thousands of Americans have come together to share their stories of hope and encouragement for LGBT youth who are struggling as part of the It Gets Better Project.  Their messages are simple: no matter how difficult or hopeless life may seem when you&#8217;re a young person who&#8217;s been tormented by your peers or feels like you don&#8217;t fit in: life will get better.</p></blockquote>
<p>Watch his &#8220;It gets better&#8221; video here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/10/21/president-obama-it-gets-better" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/10/21/president-obama-it-gets-better</a></p>
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		By: Eddy		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/10/05/cnn-a-christians-response-to-anti-gay-bullying/#comment-89840</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eddy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 19:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I appreciate the knowledge that you do speak favorably of Warren&#039;s efforts. My impression here was that every somewhat positive comment always seemed to end with some sort of &#039;dig&#039;. 



And, to your question, no, I doubt that there are any who would pass your litmus test.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate the knowledge that you do speak favorably of Warren&#8217;s efforts. My impression here was that every somewhat positive comment always seemed to end with some sort of &#8216;dig&#8217;. </p>
<p>And, to your question, no, I doubt that there are any who would pass your litmus test.</p>
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		By: Timothy Kincaid		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/10/05/cnn-a-christians-response-to-anti-gay-bullying/#comment-89843</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timothy Kincaid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 19:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Debbie,



&lt;blockquote&gt;I can&#039;t go so far as to call all of the conservative brand of it hate, as some so glibly do here.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



That&#039;s an interesting accusation.  I don&#039;t think that anyone who comments here regularly has ever glibly branded conservative hypocrisy &quot;hate&quot;. 



Would you care to back it up with examples?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Debbie,</p>
<blockquote><p>I can&#8217;t go so far as to call all of the conservative brand of it hate, as some so glibly do here.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s an interesting accusation.  I don&#8217;t think that anyone who comments here regularly has ever glibly branded conservative hypocrisy &#8220;hate&#8221;. </p>
<p>Would you care to back it up with examples?</p>
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		By: stephen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stephen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 19:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t know how to post the link. You might google &quot;North grad took own life after week of toxic comments&quot;. This one is about grown-ups.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t know how to post the link. You might google &#8220;North grad took own life after week of toxic comments&#8221;. This one is about grown-ups.</p>
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		By: stephen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stephen]]></dc:creator>
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		By: Timothy Kincaid		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timothy Kincaid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 19:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;    Not one Christian organization has deigned to concern itself with the issue of anti-gay bullying, or indeed any bullying.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



I mean, was he really saying that not a single gay Christian organization had deigned to concern itself with the issue of bullying? (and if they haven&#039;t, why are we looking to the rest of Christendom first?) Was he suggesting that gays aren&#039;t Christians? If I had made such a suggestion, the retorts would have been fast and furious. &lt;/blockquote&gt;



I think that the statement was perfectly clear.  But to understand it, you have to  read the sentence &lt;em&gt;before &lt;/em&gt;the one which was cut and pasted.



&lt;blockquote&gt;Zoe&#039;s point is well-proven. Not one Christian organization has deigned to concern itself with the issue of anti-gay bullying, or indeed any bullying. &lt;/blockquote&gt;



And what was Zoe&#039;s point?



&lt;blockquote&gt;You see, it&#039;s not just a &quot;tiny minority&quot;, It&#039;s most of Conservative Christianity who think this way. Group after Group after Group. Tell me, is there even one Conservative Christian organisation, one &quot;Concerned Parents League&quot; or &quot;Family Action Council&quot; whose beliefs remotely resemble His teachings? Just one? Anywhere?&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Now I very very much doubt that anyone thought that Joshua was speaking about gay groups when he said that none had deigned to concern itself with the issue of anti-gay bullying.  And there is absolutely no one on this site who &lt;em&gt;really &lt;/em&gt;thought that Joshua was suggesting that gays aren&#039;t Christians.  No one.  Not &lt;em&gt;really&lt;/em&gt;.



This was just histrionics.  Which is becoming far too typical.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>
<blockquote><p>    Not one Christian organization has deigned to concern itself with the issue of anti-gay bullying, or indeed any bullying.</p></blockquote>
<p>I mean, was he really saying that not a single gay Christian organization had deigned to concern itself with the issue of bullying? (and if they haven&#8217;t, why are we looking to the rest of Christendom first?) Was he suggesting that gays aren&#8217;t Christians? If I had made such a suggestion, the retorts would have been fast and furious. </p></blockquote>
<p>I think that the statement was perfectly clear.  But to understand it, you have to  read the sentence <em>before </em>the one which was cut and pasted.</p>
<blockquote><p>Zoe&#8217;s point is well-proven. Not one Christian organization has deigned to concern itself with the issue of anti-gay bullying, or indeed any bullying. </p></blockquote>
<p>And what was Zoe&#8217;s point?</p>
<blockquote><p>You see, it&#8217;s not just a &#8220;tiny minority&#8221;, It&#8217;s most of Conservative Christianity who think this way. Group after Group after Group. Tell me, is there even one Conservative Christian organisation, one &#8220;Concerned Parents League&#8221; or &#8220;Family Action Council&#8221; whose beliefs remotely resemble His teachings? Just one? Anywhere?</p></blockquote>
<p>Now I very very much doubt that anyone thought that Joshua was speaking about gay groups when he said that none had deigned to concern itself with the issue of anti-gay bullying.  And there is absolutely no one on this site who <em>really </em>thought that Joshua was suggesting that gays aren&#8217;t Christians.  No one.  Not <em>really</em>.</p>
<p>This was just histrionics.  Which is becoming far too typical.</p>
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		By: Eddy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eddy]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[I thought something akin to that when I read Joshua&#039;s unfounded blather. 



&lt;blockquote&gt;Not one Christian organization has deigned to concern itself with the issue of anti-gay bullying, or indeed any bullying.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 



I mean, was he really saying that not a single gay Christian organization had deigned to concern itself with the issue of bullying? (and if they haven&#039;t, why are we looking to the rest of Christendom first?)  Was he suggesting that gays aren&#039;t Christians? If I had made such a suggestion, the retorts would have been fast and furious. 



Ironically, he posted his over-generalized statements less than three hours after I posted



&lt;blockquote&gt;There was a time when this website wasn&#039;t known for broad and sweeping generalizations.&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought something akin to that when I read Joshua&#8217;s unfounded blather. </p>
<blockquote><p>Not one Christian organization has deigned to concern itself with the issue of anti-gay bullying, or indeed any bullying.</p></blockquote>
<p>I mean, was he really saying that not a single gay Christian organization had deigned to concern itself with the issue of bullying? (and if they haven&#8217;t, why are we looking to the rest of Christendom first?)  Was he suggesting that gays aren&#8217;t Christians? If I had made such a suggestion, the retorts would have been fast and furious. </p>
<p>Ironically, he posted his over-generalized statements less than three hours after I posted</p>
<blockquote><p>There was a time when this website wasn&#8217;t known for broad and sweeping generalizations.</p></blockquote>
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		By: Mary		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Jesus spoke to &#039;Scribes, Pharisees, Hypocrites&#039;. He spoke to those who were right there in front of him engaged in the unrighteous behavior. Perhaps our biggest error is presuming that those we can see and hear (often playing to the media or being played by the media) are a true representation of the vast numbers who we don&#039;t see and hear&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Over the last four or so years, how many times in how many different ways does this have to be said to get through?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Jesus spoke to &#8216;Scribes, Pharisees, Hypocrites&#8217;. He spoke to those who were right there in front of him engaged in the unrighteous behavior. Perhaps our biggest error is presuming that those we can see and hear (often playing to the media or being played by the media) are a true representation of the vast numbers who we don&#8217;t see and hear</p></blockquote>
<p>Over the last four or so years, how many times in how many different ways does this have to be said to get through?</p>
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