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		By: Zoe Brain		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Warren - consensus is only possible if you believe that being gay is not worse than being a murderer. 



This is disputed amongst Conservative Christian groups. Until they can come up with a consensus within themselves, it&#039;s not going to happen.



&lt;em&gt;&quot;For the murderer dissevers the soul from the body, but this man ruins the soul with the body.&quot;&lt;/em&gt; -- St John Chrysostom



The problem seems to be Gender Nonconformity:

&lt;em&gt;For I should not only say that thou hast become a woman, but that thou hast lost thy manhood, and hast neither changed into that nature nor kept that which thou haddest, but thou hast been a traitor to both of them at once, and deserving both of men and women to be driven out and stoned, as having wronged either sex. &lt;/em&gt;



They&#039;re not real big on tolerating Intersexed people either, you see.



You assume that they don&#039;t see the death of gay kids to be a &quot;consummation devoutly to be wished&quot;. While many do not, others are conflicted, to say the least. Few admit that, there is unctuousness and crocodile tears... but strip away the venir, and some will say &quot;You know, he goes a bit far, but Fred Phelps has a point...&quot;



And some admit it, and are proud to do so. Hence the situation in Uganda.



Good luck. I wouldn&#039;t hold my breath. The question is, how will this split go? It&#039;s one that is within all denominations. Will those who see the death toll as a regrettable necessity side with those who see the deaths as desirable - or with those like you, who see them as an abomination?



It is a conflict within your religion. Those of us outside of it can only stand and watch.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warren &#8211; consensus is only possible if you believe that being gay is not worse than being a murderer. </p>
<p>This is disputed amongst Conservative Christian groups. Until they can come up with a consensus within themselves, it&#8217;s not going to happen.</p>
<p><em>&#8220;For the murderer dissevers the soul from the body, but this man ruins the soul with the body.&#8221;</em> &#8212; St John Chrysostom</p>
<p>The problem seems to be Gender Nonconformity:</p>
<p><em>For I should not only say that thou hast become a woman, but that thou hast lost thy manhood, and hast neither changed into that nature nor kept that which thou haddest, but thou hast been a traitor to both of them at once, and deserving both of men and women to be driven out and stoned, as having wronged either sex. </em></p>
<p>They&#8217;re not real big on tolerating Intersexed people either, you see.</p>
<p>You assume that they don&#8217;t see the death of gay kids to be a &#8220;consummation devoutly to be wished&#8221;. While many do not, others are conflicted, to say the least. Few admit that, there is unctuousness and crocodile tears&#8230; but strip away the venir, and some will say &#8220;You know, he goes a bit far, but Fred Phelps has a point&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>And some admit it, and are proud to do so. Hence the situation in Uganda.</p>
<p>Good luck. I wouldn&#8217;t hold my breath. The question is, how will this split go? It&#8217;s one that is within all denominations. Will those who see the death toll as a regrettable necessity side with those who see the deaths as desirable &#8211; or with those like you, who see them as an abomination?</p>
<p>It is a conflict within your religion. Those of us outside of it can only stand and watch.</p>
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		By: Debbie Thurman		</title>
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		By: Zoe Brain		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Warren - a personal message.



I&#039;m sure I&#039;m not telling you anything you don&#039;t already know. In your journey, you&#039;ve had to confront some hard truths, and unpleasant realisations. It must be dreadfully discouraging.



But despite my words... keep hoping. Keep the faith. While there are such as you, people of goodwill.. hope can never be extinguished. Remember 1 Corinthians 13, and know that such as myself appreciate what you&#039;re trying to do.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warren &#8211; a personal message.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;m not telling you anything you don&#8217;t already know. In your journey, you&#8217;ve had to confront some hard truths, and unpleasant realisations. It must be dreadfully discouraging.</p>
<p>But despite my words&#8230; keep hoping. Keep the faith. While there are such as you, people of goodwill.. hope can never be extinguished. Remember 1 Corinthians 13, and know that such as myself appreciate what you&#8217;re trying to do.</p>
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		By: Zoe Brain		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Warren - a personal message.



I&#039;m sure I&#039;m not telling you anything you don&#039;t already know. In your journey, you&#039;ve had to confront some hard truths, and unpleasant realisations. It must be dreadfully discouraging.



But despite my words... keep hoping. Keep the faith. While there are such as you, people of goodwill.. hope can never be extinguished. Remember 1 Corinthians 13, and know that such as myself appreciate what you&#039;re trying to do.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warren &#8211; a personal message.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;m not telling you anything you don&#8217;t already know. In your journey, you&#8217;ve had to confront some hard truths, and unpleasant realisations. It must be dreadfully discouraging.</p>
<p>But despite my words&#8230; keep hoping. Keep the faith. While there are such as you, people of goodwill.. hope can never be extinguished. Remember 1 Corinthians 13, and know that such as myself appreciate what you&#8217;re trying to do.</p>
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		By: Zoe Brain		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Warren - consensus is only possible if you believe that being gay is not worse than being a murderer. 



This is disputed amongst Conservative Christian groups. Until they can come up with a consensus within themselves, it&#039;s not going to happen.



&lt;em&gt;&quot;For the murderer dissevers the soul from the body, but this man ruins the soul with the body.&quot;&lt;/em&gt; -- St John Chrysostom



The problem seems to be Gender Nonconformity:

&lt;em&gt;For I should not only say that thou hast become a woman, but that thou hast lost thy manhood, and hast neither changed into that nature nor kept that which thou haddest, but thou hast been a traitor to both of them at once, and deserving both of men and women to be driven out and stoned, as having wronged either sex. &lt;/em&gt;



They&#039;re not real big on tolerating Intersexed people either, you see.



You assume that they don&#039;t see the death of gay kids to be a &quot;consummation devoutly to be wished&quot;. While many do not, others are conflicted, to say the least. Few admit that, there is unctuousness and crocodile tears... but strip away the venir, and some will say &quot;You know, he goes a bit far, but Fred Phelps has a point...&quot;



And some admit it, and are proud to do so. Hence the situation in Uganda.



Good luck. I wouldn&#039;t hold my breath. The question is, how will this split go? It&#039;s one that is within all denominations. Will those who see the death toll as a regrettable necessity side with those who see the deaths as desirable - or with those like you, who see them as an abomination?



It is a conflict within your religion. Those of us outside of it can only stand and watch.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warren &#8211; consensus is only possible if you believe that being gay is not worse than being a murderer. </p>
<p>This is disputed amongst Conservative Christian groups. Until they can come up with a consensus within themselves, it&#8217;s not going to happen.</p>
<p><em>&#8220;For the murderer dissevers the soul from the body, but this man ruins the soul with the body.&#8221;</em> &#8212; St John Chrysostom</p>
<p>The problem seems to be Gender Nonconformity:</p>
<p><em>For I should not only say that thou hast become a woman, but that thou hast lost thy manhood, and hast neither changed into that nature nor kept that which thou haddest, but thou hast been a traitor to both of them at once, and deserving both of men and women to be driven out and stoned, as having wronged either sex. </em></p>
<p>They&#8217;re not real big on tolerating Intersexed people either, you see.</p>
<p>You assume that they don&#8217;t see the death of gay kids to be a &#8220;consummation devoutly to be wished&#8221;. While many do not, others are conflicted, to say the least. Few admit that, there is unctuousness and crocodile tears&#8230; but strip away the venir, and some will say &#8220;You know, he goes a bit far, but Fred Phelps has a point&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>And some admit it, and are proud to do so. Hence the situation in Uganda.</p>
<p>Good luck. I wouldn&#8217;t hold my breath. The question is, how will this split go? It&#8217;s one that is within all denominations. Will those who see the death toll as a regrettable necessity side with those who see the deaths as desirable &#8211; or with those like you, who see them as an abomination?</p>
<p>It is a conflict within your religion. Those of us outside of it can only stand and watch.</p>
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