Comments on: Rationalization, thy name is Andrew Shirvell https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/09/29/rationalization-thy-name-is-andrew-shirvell/ A [retired] college psychology professor's observations about public policy, mental health, sexual identity, and religious issues Wed, 30 May 2018 20:12:44 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.1.3 By: stephen https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/09/29/rationalization-thy-name-is-andrew-shirvell/#comment-92202 Wed, 30 May 2018 20:12:44 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=7630#comment-92202 From Timothy Kincaide’s excellent Box Turtle bog (if he doesn’t mind me quoting):

So Monaghan founded the Thomas More Law Center, an anti-gay, anti-abortion activist organization. He also funded the Ave Maria School of Law, a Catholic law school with teachings that are “in fidelity to the Catholic Faith as expressed through Sacred Tradition, Sacred Scripture, and the teaching authority of the Church” and which would send out graduates “equipped for leading positions in law firms, corporate legal offices, the judiciary, and national, state, and local government.”

So here we see the logical result of a legal education centered on an extreme religious belief instead of law. My first reaction was that Shirvell was way too obsessed with this young man not to be in love with him. That was my second and third thought too. Whether that’s true or not what seems clear is that he has an extraordinary ability to rationalize nonsense to excuse his obsessive and irrational behavior. Mr. Armstrong has tried to ignore it but now seems to be trying to protect himself from this bully. Good luck to him.

]]> By: Frank https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/09/29/rationalization-thy-name-is-andrew-shirvell/#comment-92183 Wed, 30 May 2018 20:12:42 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=7630#comment-92183 Correction. Ave Maria Law Schools accreditation was under investigation by the ABA when Scott Bloch was hiring exclusively from Ave Maria.

Still, as a fourth tier law school, I wonder how Bloch justified bypassing all candidates from higher ranking law schools.

]]> By: Frank https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/09/29/rationalization-thy-name-is-andrew-shirvell/#comment-88236 Wed, 30 May 2018 19:18:32 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=7630#comment-88236 Since Ave Maria University has never had an accredited law school, how can the attorney general’s office hire from it? Surely, it’s discrimination on the basis of religion to hire a completely unqualified candidate (no degree from an accredited institution) just because said incompetent shares your religious views.

Such practices were common in the Bush Administration when the Office of Special Counsel headed by Scott Bloch, who is currently under indictment, refused to hire anyone but graduates from Ave Maria’s Law School.

]]> By: ken https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/09/29/rationalization-thy-name-is-andrew-shirvell/#comment-84478 Wed, 30 May 2018 18:46:42 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=7630#comment-84478 While I agree Shirvell has some serious issues, there is also the possibility he is trying to “make law”, i.e. deliberately pushing the envelope in hopes of getting a favorable court ruling. I’m betting he probably figures even if he does lose his job with the AGs office, the ADF will hire him.

]]> By: ken https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/09/29/rationalization-thy-name-is-andrew-shirvell/#comment-84476 Wed, 30 May 2018 18:46:42 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=7630#comment-84476 Wow, apparently Shirvell is crazier than I thought. I wonder if anyone has looked into whether Shirvell has prosecuted cases involving GLBT victims or accused.

]]> By: David Blakeslee https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/09/29/rationalization-thy-name-is-andrew-shirvell/#comment-84474 Wed, 30 May 2018 18:46:42 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=7630#comment-84474 If you get a chance to visit the site…it is overhwelmingly devaluing, demeaning, provocative.

If you listen to the interview, the lack of warmth and humanity is alarming, it makes me think of several diagnoses.

Chris should be careful.

]]> By: Lynn David https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/09/29/rationalization-thy-name-is-andrew-shirvell/#comment-84471 Wed, 30 May 2018 18:46:42 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=7630#comment-84471 Just one more reason why a friend of mine left Michigan for California last year.

]]> By: ken https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/09/29/rationalization-thy-name-is-andrew-shirvell/#comment-43558 Sat, 02 Oct 2010 01:13:17 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=7630#comment-43558 Actually it looks like Shirvell took a personal leave not that he was suspended (the earlier article reported that incorrectly) an updated article is here:

http://detnews.com/article/20101001/METRO/10010422/Assistant-AG-takes-leave-amid-gay-bashing-controversy

Also, it now appears Shirvell’s blog is for “invited readers” only.

]]> By: ken https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/09/29/rationalization-thy-name-is-andrew-shirvell/#comment-88240 Fri, 01 Oct 2010 21:13:17 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=7630#comment-88240 Actually it looks like Shirvell took a personal leave not that he was suspended (the earlier article reported that incorrectly) an updated article is here:

http://detnews.com/article/20101001/METRO/10010422/Assistant-AG-takes-leave-amid-gay-bashing-controversy

Also, it now appears Shirvell’s blog is for “invited readers” only.

]]> By: Lynn David https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/09/29/rationalization-thy-name-is-andrew-shirvell/#comment-43557 Fri, 01 Oct 2010 06:33:38 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=7630#comment-43557 Michigan Attorney General Mike Cox has reversed his position and suspended Assistant AG Andrew Shivrell.

http://detnews.com/article/20101001/METRO/10010401/Assistant-AG-suspended-over-gay-bashing-blog

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