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	Comments on: Family Feud: Karl Rove on Christine O&#8217;Donnell	</title>
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		By: Lynn David		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynn David]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[My two favorite Christine O&#039;Donnell quotes are:



&quot;&lt;em&gt;Physics put people in spiritual harm, the same way pimps put people in physical harm&lt;/em&gt;.&quot;



And:



&quot;&lt;em&gt;Creationism, in essence, is believing that the world began as the Bible in Genesis says, that god created the earth in six twenty-four hour periods.   And there is just as much evidence, if not more, supporting that.&lt;/em&gt;&quot;



Anyone who should have voted or will vote for her deserves what they might get.  America has always been a country grounded in compromise.   We have to get back there, back to the solid center.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My two favorite Christine O&#8217;Donnell quotes are:</p>
<p>&#8220;<em>Physics put people in spiritual harm, the same way pimps put people in physical harm</em>.&#8221;</p>
<p>And:</p>
<p>&#8220;<em>Creationism, in essence, is believing that the world began as the Bible in Genesis says, that god created the earth in six twenty-four hour periods.   And there is just as much evidence, if not more, supporting that.</em>&#8221;</p>
<p>Anyone who should have voted or will vote for her deserves what they might get.  America has always been a country grounded in compromise.   We have to get back there, back to the solid center.</p>
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		By: Zoe Brain		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zoe Brain]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Now we&#039;re using this to start cloning humans. ... They are - they are doing that here in the United States. American scientific companies are cross-breeding humans and animals and coming up with mice with fully functioning human brains.&#039; &lt;/blockquote&gt;O&#039;Reilly Factor, 10/16/07



She&#039;s not crazy. She just tells people what they want to hear. I&#039;m sure that if she gets into office, she will show just the same imaginative and creative financial expertise that she&#039;s shown in her personal life.



&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;I dabbled into witchcraft - I never joined a coven. ... I hung around people who were doing these things. &lt;em&gt;I&#039;m not making this stuff up&lt;/em&gt;. One of my first dates with a witch was on a satanic altar, and I didn&#039;t know it. I mean, there&#039;s little blood there and stuff like that. ... We went to a movie and then had a midnight picnic on a satanic altar.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&quot; Politically Incorrect, 10/29/99



But now of course she&#039;s saved by Christ. And she&#039;s on a mission from God.



I think it shows just how badly both parties have performed in Congress that such a person is a serious contender. The Obama administration is up there with Harding&#039;s for corruption, and many (R)s are so corrupt themselves they don&#039;t capitalise on it.



Actually, she reminds me rather a lot of a certain Ugandan politician...



&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;During the primary, I heard the audible voice of God. He said, &#039;Credibility.&#039; It wasn&#039;t a thought in my head. I thought it meant I was going to win. But after the primary, I got credibility.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt; [Wilmington News-Journal, 11/12/06] 



And the Rubes sucked it up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;Now we&#8217;re using this to start cloning humans. &#8230; They are &#8211; they are doing that here in the United States. American scientific companies are cross-breeding humans and animals and coming up with mice with fully functioning human brains.&#8217; </p></blockquote>
<p>O&#8217;Reilly Factor, 10/16/07</p>
<p>She&#8217;s not crazy. She just tells people what they want to hear. I&#8217;m sure that if she gets into office, she will show just the same imaginative and creative financial expertise that she&#8217;s shown in her personal life.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I dabbled into witchcraft &#8211; I never joined a coven. &#8230; I hung around people who were doing these things. <em>I&#8217;m not making this stuff up</em>. One of my first dates with a witch was on a satanic altar, and I didn&#8217;t know it. I mean, there&#8217;s little blood there and stuff like that. &#8230; We went to a movie and then had a midnight picnic on a satanic altar.</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8221; Politically Incorrect, 10/29/99</p>
<p>But now of course she&#8217;s saved by Christ. And she&#8217;s on a mission from God.</p>
<p>I think it shows just how badly both parties have performed in Congress that such a person is a serious contender. The Obama administration is up there with Harding&#8217;s for corruption, and many (R)s are so corrupt themselves they don&#8217;t capitalise on it.</p>
<p>Actually, she reminds me rather a lot of a certain Ugandan politician&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;During the primary, I heard the audible voice of God. He said, &#8216;Credibility.&#8217; It wasn&#8217;t a thought in my head. I thought it meant I was going to win. But after the primary, I got credibility.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p> [Wilmington News-Journal, 11/12/06] </p>
<p>And the Rubes sucked it up.</p>
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		By: Zoe Brain		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Such would possibly fly in the face of the APA&#039;s edicts that deeply held religious views cannot be considered mental illnesses such as delusions. However, there becomes a point when factual realities start to become so widely distorted by persons that perhaps their mental acuity or at least their motives (and reasoning behind such motives) should be questioned.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Well, yes.



But only in those cases. We must be careful here, drawing a distinction between &quot;mentally ill&quot; and &quot;just plain bad&quot;. Evil, if you like.



I regard many of those on the Right-wing of Christianity as incorrect, inconsistent with their own Holy Writings, but erroneous rather than corrupt. Many more, less far to the Right, I differ from, but they&#039;re reasonable people. I see no malice in them, no matter how awful the effects of their actions are.



But those who, for personal gain in wealth and power, make persecution a business - nothing personal - and knowingly engage in hypocrisy to get the suckers&#039; cash rolling in, and to have fun hurting others and demonstrating their power over them - they&#039;re just plain mean. A mental illness? Sociopathy? I don&#039;t know. What made them that way? Is it - like transsexuality :) - just something that is good for the whole to have a smattering of, no matter the terrible effects are on those concerned? I don&#039;t know. I do know that there&#039;s no reasoning with them - unless on the basis of their own self-interest. I think that it&#039;s only when even that fails, that they&#039;d rather be a big fish in a small pond than a larger, but relatively smaller fish in a much bigger pond - &quot;better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven&quot; - that you cross the boundary into Evil.



From the viewpoint of damage limitation, I&#039;m not sure it matters. Much as I&#039;d like to see them spiritually healed, Life&#039;s too short, and my priority has to be their victims first. Theologically incorrect, as their victims can look forward to a reward later for suffering now, whereas their disorder will be Eternal, but I don&#039;t believe in that stuff.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Such would possibly fly in the face of the APA&#8217;s edicts that deeply held religious views cannot be considered mental illnesses such as delusions. However, there becomes a point when factual realities start to become so widely distorted by persons that perhaps their mental acuity or at least their motives (and reasoning behind such motives) should be questioned.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, yes.</p>
<p>But only in those cases. We must be careful here, drawing a distinction between &#8220;mentally ill&#8221; and &#8220;just plain bad&#8221;. Evil, if you like.</p>
<p>I regard many of those on the Right-wing of Christianity as incorrect, inconsistent with their own Holy Writings, but erroneous rather than corrupt. Many more, less far to the Right, I differ from, but they&#8217;re reasonable people. I see no malice in them, no matter how awful the effects of their actions are.</p>
<p>But those who, for personal gain in wealth and power, make persecution a business &#8211; nothing personal &#8211; and knowingly engage in hypocrisy to get the suckers&#8217; cash rolling in, and to have fun hurting others and demonstrating their power over them &#8211; they&#8217;re just plain mean. A mental illness? Sociopathy? I don&#8217;t know. What made them that way? Is it &#8211; like transsexuality 🙂 &#8211; just something that is good for the whole to have a smattering of, no matter the terrible effects are on those concerned? I don&#8217;t know. I do know that there&#8217;s no reasoning with them &#8211; unless on the basis of their own self-interest. I think that it&#8217;s only when even that fails, that they&#8217;d rather be a big fish in a small pond than a larger, but relatively smaller fish in a much bigger pond &#8211; &#8220;better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven&#8221; &#8211; that you cross the boundary into Evil.</p>
<p>From the viewpoint of damage limitation, I&#8217;m not sure it matters. Much as I&#8217;d like to see them spiritually healed, Life&#8217;s too short, and my priority has to be their victims first. Theologically incorrect, as their victims can look forward to a reward later for suffering now, whereas their disorder will be Eternal, but I don&#8217;t believe in that stuff.</p>
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		By: Lynn David		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;She&#039;s not crazy. She just tells people what they want to hear. I&#039;m sure that if she gets into office, she will show just the same imaginative and creative financial expertise that she&#039;s shown in her personal life.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Maybe not crazy in the thoughts of laymen, but possibly psychopathic.   I wonder if there is such a personality type as a religious psychopath?  One for whom telling falsehoods or any amount of lies in furtherance of a religious concept entails no problem of conscience whatsoever.   I see that the term has been used to describe Islamic terrorism; but surely there should be milder forms.  For instance, AA Dole - &lt;em&gt;The Psychology of Terrorism&lt;/em&gt;, 2002 but the concept has been used  for a more benign form:  WC MIDDLETON - Psychological Review, 1931, &lt;em&gt;The psychopathology of George Fox, the founder of Quakerism&lt;/em&gt;. 

.

Such would possibly fly in the face of the APA&#039;s edicts that deeply held religious views cannot be considered mental illnesses such as delusions.   However, there becomes a point when factual realities start to become so widely distorted by persons that perhaps their mental acuity or at least their motives (and &lt;em&gt;reasoning&lt;/em&gt; behind such motives) should be questioned. 

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>She&#8217;s not crazy. She just tells people what they want to hear. I&#8217;m sure that if she gets into office, she will show just the same imaginative and creative financial expertise that she&#8217;s shown in her personal life.</p></blockquote>
<p>Maybe not crazy in the thoughts of laymen, but possibly psychopathic.   I wonder if there is such a personality type as a religious psychopath?  One for whom telling falsehoods or any amount of lies in furtherance of a religious concept entails no problem of conscience whatsoever.   I see that the term has been used to describe Islamic terrorism; but surely there should be milder forms.  For instance, AA Dole &#8211; <em>The Psychology of Terrorism</em>, 2002 but the concept has been used  for a more benign form:  WC MIDDLETON &#8211; Psychological Review, 1931, <em>The psychopathology of George Fox, the founder of Quakerism</em>. </p>
<p>.</p>
<p>Such would possibly fly in the face of the APA&#8217;s edicts that deeply held religious views cannot be considered mental illnesses such as delusions.   However, there becomes a point when factual realities start to become so widely distorted by persons that perhaps their mental acuity or at least their motives (and <em>reasoning</em> behind such motives) should be questioned. </p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
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		By: stephanie		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Did you catch the part in the Daily Beast article about AFTAH&#039;s little room of horrors?



Gotta love research!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you catch the part in the Daily Beast article about AFTAH&#8217;s little room of horrors?</p>
<p>Gotta love research!</p>
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