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		By: Debbie Thurman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Debbie Thurman]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/USTerrorReport/2010/09/10/id/369775?s=al&#038;promo_code=AB5C-1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;A sobering assessment on homegrown radicals.&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/USTerrorReport/2010/09/10/id/369775?s=al&#038;promo_code=AB5C-1" rel="nofollow">A sobering assessment on homegrown radicals.</a></p>
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		By: Debbie Thurman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Debbie Thurman]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[McVeigh was no Dominionist. This is from Wikipedia, so consider the source. However:



&lt;blockquote&gt;In a recorded interview with Time magazine, McVeigh professed his belief in &quot;a god&quot;, although he said he had &quot;sort of lost touch with&quot; Catholicism and &quot;I never really picked it up, however I do maintain core beliefs.&quot; Throughout his childhood, he and his father were Roman Catholic and regularly attended daily Mass at Good Shepherd Church in Pendleton, New York. The Guardian reported that McVeigh wrote a letter to them claiming to be an agnostic and that he did not believe in a hell.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Weaver was akin to McVeigh and Koresh was a cultist, not a Christian. 



For every ADL-targeted-underground-that-nobody-ever-heard-of militia, I&#039;m sure you could find multiple underground Muslim extremist cell groups.



The only one that gets into the ballpark is abortion clinic bombings. A heinous tactic, soundly rejected by mainstream Christians, whereas peace-loving Islam followers do not generally denounce their extremists. 



I don&#039;t discount extremists anywhere. I merely point out the weight of evidence against the claim that Dominionism is a greater threat than militant Islamic fanaticism.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McVeigh was no Dominionist. This is from Wikipedia, so consider the source. However:</p>
<blockquote><p>In a recorded interview with Time magazine, McVeigh professed his belief in &#8220;a god&#8221;, although he said he had &#8220;sort of lost touch with&#8221; Catholicism and &#8220;I never really picked it up, however I do maintain core beliefs.&#8221; Throughout his childhood, he and his father were Roman Catholic and regularly attended daily Mass at Good Shepherd Church in Pendleton, New York. The Guardian reported that McVeigh wrote a letter to them claiming to be an agnostic and that he did not believe in a hell.</p></blockquote>
<p>Weaver was akin to McVeigh and Koresh was a cultist, not a Christian. </p>
<p>For every ADL-targeted-underground-that-nobody-ever-heard-of militia, I&#8217;m sure you could find multiple underground Muslim extremist cell groups.</p>
<p>The only one that gets into the ballpark is abortion clinic bombings. A heinous tactic, soundly rejected by mainstream Christians, whereas peace-loving Islam followers do not generally denounce their extremists. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t discount extremists anywhere. I merely point out the weight of evidence against the claim that Dominionism is a greater threat than militant Islamic fanaticism.</p>
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		By: Debbie Thurman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Debbie Thurman]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think Dominionism is so &quot;out there&quot; as to be no real threat to our American way of life. Most people will see it for what it is, especially in a nation that is tumbling into a post-Christian age. We would be better served studying and being prepared to defend against Islamofascism, which is a real threat.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Dominionism is so &#8220;out there&#8221; as to be no real threat to our American way of life. Most people will see it for what it is, especially in a nation that is tumbling into a post-Christian age. We would be better served studying and being prepared to defend against Islamofascism, which is a real threat.</p>
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		By: ken		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Debbie Thurman#   ~ Sep 15, 2010 at 6:56 am  



&quot;Jayhuck, how many Christians are running training camps and recruiting suicide/homicide bombers and carrying out subsequent murderous attacks? &quot;



More than you think Debbie.  Here are a few that the ADL are keeping tabs on:



Kentucky State Militia, Ohio Unorganized Militia Assistance and Advisory Committee, Southeastern Ohio Defense Force, Michigan Militia (two factions using the same name), Southern Indiana Regional Militia, Southern California High Desert Militia (and others).



&quot;How many have flown airplanes into buildings, killing thousands of innocent people?&quot;



None, their preferred method is a truck bomb. 



&quot;How many Christians use women and children as shields on the battlefield?



How many barricade themselves into churches, booby-trap them and become deadly snipers, daring anyone to come in after them and &quot;desecrate&quot; their holy shrines? &quot;



Of the top of my head there was Randy Weaver at Ruby Ridge, and David Koresh at Waco.  I&#039;m sure there are more.



&quot;How many threaten and actually murder those who take the name of Jesus in vain? &quot;



How many abortion clinic bombings have there been? Murders of doctors at these clinics?  More than a few.  



All of these incidents I referenced involved christians claiming they did what they did in the name of their god.  Yet, everyone seems to recognize these cases as people perverting christian beliefs.  However, when it comes to similar atrocities carried out in the name of islam, many people seem more than willing to blindly accept these acts as a central part of the islamic faith. 



I suspect that in many religions you will be able to find examples of leaders twisting the religion to get their followers to do terrible things.  The fact that you discount these things in christianity while attempting to argue they are a central part of islam, says more about you than it does the islamic faith.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Debbie Thurman#   ~ Sep 15, 2010 at 6:56 am  </p>
<p>&#8220;Jayhuck, how many Christians are running training camps and recruiting suicide/homicide bombers and carrying out subsequent murderous attacks? &#8221;</p>
<p>More than you think Debbie.  Here are a few that the ADL are keeping tabs on:</p>
<p>Kentucky State Militia, Ohio Unorganized Militia Assistance and Advisory Committee, Southeastern Ohio Defense Force, Michigan Militia (two factions using the same name), Southern Indiana Regional Militia, Southern California High Desert Militia (and others).</p>
<p>&#8220;How many have flown airplanes into buildings, killing thousands of innocent people?&#8221;</p>
<p>None, their preferred method is a truck bomb. </p>
<p>&#8220;How many Christians use women and children as shields on the battlefield?</p>
<p>How many barricade themselves into churches, booby-trap them and become deadly snipers, daring anyone to come in after them and &#8220;desecrate&#8221; their holy shrines? &#8221;</p>
<p>Of the top of my head there was Randy Weaver at Ruby Ridge, and David Koresh at Waco.  I&#8217;m sure there are more.</p>
<p>&#8220;How many threaten and actually murder those who take the name of Jesus in vain? &#8221;</p>
<p>How many abortion clinic bombings have there been? Murders of doctors at these clinics?  More than a few.  </p>
<p>All of these incidents I referenced involved christians claiming they did what they did in the name of their god.  Yet, everyone seems to recognize these cases as people perverting christian beliefs.  However, when it comes to similar atrocities carried out in the name of islam, many people seem more than willing to blindly accept these acts as a central part of the islamic faith. </p>
<p>I suspect that in many religions you will be able to find examples of leaders twisting the religion to get their followers to do terrible things.  The fact that you discount these things in christianity while attempting to argue they are a central part of islam, says more about you than it does the islamic faith.</p>
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		By: Zoe Brain		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zoe Brain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 20:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[post-Christian?



I&#039;m no Christian, but let&#039;s not throw the baby out with the bathwater. If only more Christians actually followed in Christ&#039;s footsteps - as some do -  being &quot;post-Christian&quot; would not be desirable.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>post-Christian?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m no Christian, but let&#8217;s not throw the baby out with the bathwater. If only more Christians actually followed in Christ&#8217;s footsteps &#8211; as some do &#8211;  being &#8220;post-Christian&#8221; would not be desirable.</p>
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		By: Jayhuck		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jayhuck]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[I really enjoy Christians minimizing the extremists in their own religion saying they don&#039;t speak for the well-informed majority and then turning around and upholding the idea that extremists speak for the majority of another religion]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really enjoy Christians minimizing the extremists in their own religion saying they don&#8217;t speak for the well-informed majority and then turning around and upholding the idea that extremists speak for the majority of another religion</p>
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		By: David Blakeslee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Blakeslee]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Christian laws and Christian principals are deeply embedded in US culture...if I have learned nothing else in the last 6 years, it is how deeply rooted Christianity is here.



That being said, popular culture is definitely post Christian.  Deprivation for long term goals and commitment to a community over a commitment to self are not 1) marketable or 2) entertaining.



Dominionism cannot exist without a highly flawed, simplistic and narcissistic interpretation of Scripture.



My Ego masquerades as Biblical authority...for the Dominionist





My Ego masquerades as My Rights...for the popular culture fiend.



:).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christian laws and Christian principals are deeply embedded in US culture&#8230;if I have learned nothing else in the last 6 years, it is how deeply rooted Christianity is here.</p>
<p>That being said, popular culture is definitely post Christian.  Deprivation for long term goals and commitment to a community over a commitment to self are not 1) marketable or 2) entertaining.</p>
<p>Dominionism cannot exist without a highly flawed, simplistic and narcissistic interpretation of Scripture.</p>
<p>My Ego masquerades as Biblical authority&#8230;for the Dominionist</p>
<p>My Ego masquerades as My Rights&#8230;for the popular culture fiend.</p>
<p>:).</p>
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		By: Warren		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Warren]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dang ego. Off with its head (or tail).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dang ego. Off with its head (or tail).</p>
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		By: Debbie Thurman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Debbie Thurman]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jayhuck, how many Christians are running training camps and recruiting suicide/homicide bombers and carrying out subsequent murderous attacks? 



How many have flown airplanes into buildings, killing thousands of innocent people? 



How many Christians use women and children as shields on the battlefield? 



How many barricade themselves into churches, booby-trap them and become deadly snipers, daring anyone to come in after them and &quot;desecrate&quot; their holy shrines? 



How many threaten and actually murder those who take the name of Jesus in vain? 



How many want to build a cathedral on the site of a Dominionist attack that killed thousands of Arab-speaking nationals? Oh wait. Strike that last question. The attack never happened.



How many Christian nations have Dominionist law, meaning stoning to death of homosexuals or cutting off the hands of thieves and other unspeakable horrors? 



How many (countless) Dominionist plots or attacks have been foiled by vigilance? 



And, finally, what are you smoking?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jayhuck, how many Christians are running training camps and recruiting suicide/homicide bombers and carrying out subsequent murderous attacks? </p>
<p>How many have flown airplanes into buildings, killing thousands of innocent people? </p>
<p>How many Christians use women and children as shields on the battlefield? </p>
<p>How many barricade themselves into churches, booby-trap them and become deadly snipers, daring anyone to come in after them and &#8220;desecrate&#8221; their holy shrines? </p>
<p>How many threaten and actually murder those who take the name of Jesus in vain? </p>
<p>How many want to build a cathedral on the site of a Dominionist attack that killed thousands of Arab-speaking nationals? Oh wait. Strike that last question. The attack never happened.</p>
<p>How many Christian nations have Dominionist law, meaning stoning to death of homosexuals or cutting off the hands of thieves and other unspeakable horrors? </p>
<p>How many (countless) Dominionist plots or attacks have been foiled by vigilance? </p>
<p>And, finally, what are you smoking?</p>
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		By: Jayhuck		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jayhuck]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Islamofascism?  I think Christianofascism/Dominionism is a bigger threat



From Wikipedia on the subject of the so-called idea of Islamofascism:



&lt;blockquote&gt;Critics such as former National Review columnist Joseph Sobran, and New York Times columnist Paul Krugman argue that &quot;Islamofascism is nothing but an empty propaganda term.&quot; used by proponents of the &quot;War on Terror&quot;.[14][16][17] Security expert Daniel Benjamin, political scientist Norman Finkelstein and The American Conservative columnist Daniel Larison, highlight the claim that, despite its use as a piece of propaganda, the term is inherently meaningless, since as Benjamin notes, &quot;there is no sense in which jihadists embrace fascist ideology as it was developed by Mussolini or anyone else who was associated with the term.&quot;[18][19]&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Islamofascism?  I think Christianofascism/Dominionism is a bigger threat</p>
<p>From Wikipedia on the subject of the so-called idea of Islamofascism:</p>
<blockquote><p>Critics such as former National Review columnist Joseph Sobran, and New York Times columnist Paul Krugman argue that &#8220;Islamofascism is nothing but an empty propaganda term.&#8221; used by proponents of the &#8220;War on Terror&#8221;.[14][16][17] Security expert Daniel Benjamin, political scientist Norman Finkelstein and The American Conservative columnist Daniel Larison, highlight the claim that, despite its use as a piece of propaganda, the term is inherently meaningless, since as Benjamin notes, &#8220;there is no sense in which jihadists embrace fascist ideology as it was developed by Mussolini or anyone else who was associated with the term.&#8221;[18][19]</p></blockquote>
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