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		By: Debbie Thurman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Debbie Thurman]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Oh, so it&#039;s the Holy Spirit that is driving gay kids to suicide?&lt;/blockquote&gt; 



No, Timothy. It&#039;s the devil. The one who condemns. Conviction leads to repentance which leads to transformation. I thought your church upbringing would have taught you that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Oh, so it&#8217;s the Holy Spirit that is driving gay kids to suicide?</p></blockquote>
<p>No, Timothy. It&#8217;s the devil. The one who condemns. Conviction leads to repentance which leads to transformation. I thought your church upbringing would have taught you that.</p>
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		By: Timothy Kincaid		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timothy Kincaid]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Debbie, 



You are excusing the bullying of children by pretending that their depression is not the result of outside forces but is instead due to their conscience and their awareness of their &quot;sinful thoughts or actions&quot;.



Your contention is a gross perversion of Christian theology.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Debbie, </p>
<p>You are excusing the bullying of children by pretending that their depression is not the result of outside forces but is instead due to their conscience and their awareness of their &#8220;sinful thoughts or actions&#8221;.</p>
<p>Your contention is a gross perversion of Christian theology.</p>
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		By: Debbie Thurman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Debbie Thurman]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;And then, after the Holy Spirit convicts, then Satan condemns. And it is not the convicting of the Holy Spirit but the condemning of Satan that leads to depression and death.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Timothy, go learn some Theology 101 and then come back.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And then, after the Holy Spirit convicts, then Satan condemns. And it is not the convicting of the Holy Spirit but the condemning of Satan that leads to depression and death.</p></blockquote>
<p>Timothy, go learn some Theology 101 and then come back.</p>
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		By: Debbie Thurman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Debbie Thurman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 21:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Ask them if they believe in the literal admonition that when it comes to gays, &quot;their deaths will be upon them&quot;, with no-one to blame but themselves if they end up strung up somewhere.



It&#039;s the public face of Evangelical Christianity, whether accurate or not.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



It is on Planet Zoe. Did you stop to think about how that &quot;face&quot; could be both public and inaccurate? That&#039;s an oxymoron.  Do you mean improper or heinous?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Ask them if they believe in the literal admonition that when it comes to gays, &#8220;their deaths will be upon them&#8221;, with no-one to blame but themselves if they end up strung up somewhere.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the public face of Evangelical Christianity, whether accurate or not.</p></blockquote>
<p>It is on Planet Zoe. Did you stop to think about how that &#8220;face&#8221; could be both public and inaccurate? That&#8217;s an oxymoron.  Do you mean improper or heinous?</p>
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		By: Zoe Brain		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zoe Brain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 20:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Another exhibit from the Culture Wars:

http://www.bilerico.com/2010/09/47323_1497572092628_1633910917_1209766_154427_n.jpg



This from someone running for the State Senate, and president of the Big Sky Tea Party Association:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Tim Ravndal: &quot;Marriage is between a man and a woman period! By giving rights to those otherwise would be a violation of the constitution and my own rights&quot;



Kieth Baker: &quot;How dare you exercise your First Amendment Rights?&quot;



Dennis Scranton: &quot;I think fruits are decorative. Hang up where they can be seen and appreciated. Call Wyoming for display instructions.&quot;



Tim Ravndal: &quot;@Kieth, OOPS I forgot this aint(sic) America no more! @ Dennis, Where can I get that Wyoming printed instruction manual?&quot;



Dennis Scranton: Should be able to get info Gazette archives. Maybe even an illustration. Go back a bit over ten years.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

They&#039;re the victims here you see. Their God-given right to lynch the ungodly is being infringed.



Debbie, that may not be, in fact I really, really doubt it is, the Evangelical Christian viewpoint you&#039;re familiar with. But I&#039;d bet dollars to doughnuts you know some Evangelicals who think along those lines. Ask them. Ask if they feel that Christians are being persecuted by &quot;The Gay Agenda&quot;. Ask them if they believe in the literal admonition that when it comes to gays, &quot;their deaths will be upon them&quot;, with no-one to blame but themselves if they end up strung up somewhere.



It&#039;s the public face of Evangelical Christianity, whether accurate or not.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another exhibit from the Culture Wars:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bilerico.com/2010/09/47323_1497572092628_1633910917_1209766_154427_n.jpg" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.bilerico.com/2010/09/47323_1497572092628_1633910917_1209766_154427_n.jpg</a></p>
<p>This from someone running for the State Senate, and president of the Big Sky Tea Party Association:</p>
<blockquote><p>Tim Ravndal: &#8220;Marriage is between a man and a woman period! By giving rights to those otherwise would be a violation of the constitution and my own rights&#8221;</p>
<p>Kieth Baker: &#8220;How dare you exercise your First Amendment Rights?&#8221;</p>
<p>Dennis Scranton: &#8220;I think fruits are decorative. Hang up where they can be seen and appreciated. Call Wyoming for display instructions.&#8221;</p>
<p>Tim Ravndal: &#8220;@Kieth, OOPS I forgot this aint(sic) America no more! @ Dennis, Where can I get that Wyoming printed instruction manual?&#8221;</p>
<p>Dennis Scranton: Should be able to get info Gazette archives. Maybe even an illustration. Go back a bit over ten years.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>They&#8217;re the victims here you see. Their God-given right to lynch the ungodly is being infringed.</p>
<p>Debbie, that may not be, in fact I really, really doubt it is, the Evangelical Christian viewpoint you&#8217;re familiar with. But I&#8217;d bet dollars to doughnuts you know some Evangelicals who think along those lines. Ask them. Ask if they feel that Christians are being persecuted by &#8220;The Gay Agenda&#8221;. Ask them if they believe in the literal admonition that when it comes to gays, &#8220;their deaths will be upon them&#8221;, with no-one to blame but themselves if they end up strung up somewhere.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the public face of Evangelical Christianity, whether accurate or not.</p>
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