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	Comments on: CA Proposition 8 decision due today UPDATE: Prop 8 overturned	</title>
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		By: Eddy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 23:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah, ain&#039;t that a &#039;kick in the head&#039;?! And it&#039;s absolutely amazing how much &lt;em&gt;other&lt;/em&gt; joy is out there!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, ain&#8217;t that a &#8216;kick in the head&#8217;?! And it&#8217;s absolutely amazing how much <em>other</em> joy is out there!</p>
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		By: Timothy Kincaid		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Would &#039;marriage equality&#039; impact them towards zero tolerance or would it work the other way. &lt;/blockquote&gt;



I wish I could recall where I saw it, but a year or so ago I read an article by a gay guy discussing how marriage impacted his life.  He said that it surprised him in the way in which it impacted his views on monogamy.



Prior to marriage he and his guy were mostly monogamous but (if I recall correctly) occasionally one or both would have outside sex.  But after making vows he and his husband found themselves newly jealous.  They didn&#039;t want anyone else touching their man and decided that marriage meant no outside play.



I don&#039;t know if this is usual, common, or an exception, but I&#039;m not surprised that the expectations and commitments and responsibilities of marriage change a person.  We&#039;ve seen it forever in straights, so I would not be surprised to see it in gays as well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Would &#8216;marriage equality&#8217; impact them towards zero tolerance or would it work the other way. </p></blockquote>
<p>I wish I could recall where I saw it, but a year or so ago I read an article by a gay guy discussing how marriage impacted his life.  He said that it surprised him in the way in which it impacted his views on monogamy.</p>
<p>Prior to marriage he and his guy were mostly monogamous but (if I recall correctly) occasionally one or both would have outside sex.  But after making vows he and his husband found themselves newly jealous.  They didn&#8217;t want anyone else touching their man and decided that marriage meant no outside play.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if this is usual, common, or an exception, but I&#8217;m not surprised that the expectations and commitments and responsibilities of marriage change a person.  We&#8217;ve seen it forever in straights, so I would not be surprised to see it in gays as well.</p>
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		By: Eddy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 23:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And yet the law does exist...and yet Christians were admonished to avoid all manner of sin...and yet Christ paid the price &lt;em&gt;for our sins&lt;/em&gt;...for our transgressions &lt;em&gt;of the law&lt;/em&gt;. To the woman caught in adultery He said &#039;Go &lt;em&gt;and sin no more&#039;&lt;/em&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yet the law does exist&#8230;and yet Christians were admonished to avoid all manner of sin&#8230;and yet Christ paid the price <em>for our sins</em>&#8230;for our transgressions <em>of the law</em>. To the woman caught in adultery He said &#8216;Go <em>and sin no more&#8217;</em>.</p>
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		By: Timothy Kincaid		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/08/04/ca-proposition-8-decision-due-today/#comment-95381</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timothy Kincaid]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Eddy,



&lt;blockquote&gt;Debbie did not say that they had never seen or heard of it but simply that there was on word for it. So she wasn&#039;t saying that it was an &#039;unknown concept&#039; as you suggest but rather that it was one that there wasn&#039;t a quick &#039;buzzword&#039; for. And this is quite understandable. &lt;/blockquote&gt;



There were plenty of words in Greek which discuss same-sex behavior and same-sex love.  Remember we&#039;re talking about what the Victorians referred to as &quot;the vice of the Greeks&quot;. 



I have no idea why Paul did not use the common current language if he wished to condemn either same-sex behavior or same-sex love, but it wasn&#039;t due to any lack of words.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eddy,</p>
<blockquote><p>Debbie did not say that they had never seen or heard of it but simply that there was on word for it. So she wasn&#8217;t saying that it was an &#8216;unknown concept&#8217; as you suggest but rather that it was one that there wasn&#8217;t a quick &#8216;buzzword&#8217; for. And this is quite understandable. </p></blockquote>
<p>There were plenty of words in Greek which discuss same-sex behavior and same-sex love.  Remember we&#8217;re talking about what the Victorians referred to as &#8220;the vice of the Greeks&#8221;. </p>
<p>I have no idea why Paul did not use the common current language if he wished to condemn either same-sex behavior or same-sex love, but it wasn&#8217;t due to any lack of words.</p>
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		By: Debbie Thurman		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/08/04/ca-proposition-8-decision-due-today/#comment-95332</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Debbie Thurman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 23:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Isn&#039;t this the start of graciousness to one another? Each person&#039;s spiritual journey, and relationship with Our Lord, is uniquely just that &#8230; each person&#039;s.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Exactly, Teresa. :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Isn&#8217;t this the start of graciousness to one another? Each person&#8217;s spiritual journey, and relationship with Our Lord, is uniquely just that &#8230; each person&#8217;s.</p></blockquote>
<p>Exactly, Teresa. 🙂</p>
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