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		By: James		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ken,

welcome on board. I hope you are getting into a subject that you are well informed about. And I hope we&#039;ll have an objective discussion here. Your rant against Maazi already exhibits your lack of understanding about Uganda. I would refer you to Anthropological write ups about Uganda. When one does not agree with you, your usual stand is always to demonise him/her. This will not deter our committment to defending our sovereignity.



Lynn David is another misinformed guy who rlies on hearsay to develop his so called accurate stories. Was Oyo and Victor really awarded that $7000? Where they really thrown in police cells? Please check your records correctly before you shoot up with inaccurate information. 



You know America expects everyone to bow to their ill demands but you there is a lot out there with knees that can never bend. Nowonder some few Americans on this blog keep trying to enforce unacceptable social evils to us. As Dr. Warren says You Americans will do your part, I want to let you know we Ugandans will also do our part..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken,</p>
<p>welcome on board. I hope you are getting into a subject that you are well informed about. And I hope we&#8217;ll have an objective discussion here. Your rant against Maazi already exhibits your lack of understanding about Uganda. I would refer you to Anthropological write ups about Uganda. When one does not agree with you, your usual stand is always to demonise him/her. This will not deter our committment to defending our sovereignity.</p>
<p>Lynn David is another misinformed guy who rlies on hearsay to develop his so called accurate stories. Was Oyo and Victor really awarded that $7000? Where they really thrown in police cells? Please check your records correctly before you shoot up with inaccurate information. </p>
<p>You know America expects everyone to bow to their ill demands but you there is a lot out there with knees that can never bend. Nowonder some few Americans on this blog keep trying to enforce unacceptable social evils to us. As Dr. Warren says You Americans will do your part, I want to let you know we Ugandans will also do our part..</p>
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		By: Maazi NCO		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;You do have a right to your sovereignty. But others (people and countries) have the right to disagree with you. And to boycott or otherwise isolate you if you pass discriminatory legislation. Just as was done 30 years ago against the apartied policies of South Africa.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Ken,



Buahahahahahahahahaha---Ugandans are not scared of such false threats. Provided majority of the world reject gayism as a human right and provided this deviant sexual behaviour remains outside the scope of the 1948 UN Declaration on human rights (UNDHR), no one has legal grounds to boycott any country on grounds of sexual disorientation. Please don&#039;t bother to repeat false propaganda about UNDHR covering homosexual conduct and do not mistake UNDHR for the unsuccessful and useless  &quot; 2008 UN Declaration on Sexual Orientation &#038; Gender Identity&quot; signed by a small fraction of the world&#039;s 192 nations.



I would imagine that your American and European governments will start their boycotting campaign by banning from their markets all barrels of crude oil produced by pro-American client states in the Arabian Gulf  since most stipulate death penalty by hanging for gay sex or some other extreme punishment. I am sure that the governments of Singapore and Malaysia are shitting their pants at the thought of being boycotted by the West for refusing to decriminalize sodomy. Even the senate of the small Republic of Burundi called the bluff of western governments and Euro-American Gay Lobby and criminalized gay sex.  An apartheid South African-style boycott? Are you kidding me? Nobody is gonna boycott Uganda, not now that the east african nation has struck commercial quantities of crude oil. Important world decisions are not  made the foundation of sentiments and emotions, they are made based on &lt;b&gt;realpolitik&lt;/b&gt; and  &lt;b&gt;vested interests &lt;/b&gt; Ken please learn !!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You do have a right to your sovereignty. But others (people and countries) have the right to disagree with you. And to boycott or otherwise isolate you if you pass discriminatory legislation. Just as was done 30 years ago against the apartied policies of South Africa.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ken,</p>
<p>Buahahahahahahahahaha&#8212;Ugandans are not scared of such false threats. Provided majority of the world reject gayism as a human right and provided this deviant sexual behaviour remains outside the scope of the 1948 UN Declaration on human rights (UNDHR), no one has legal grounds to boycott any country on grounds of sexual disorientation. Please don&#8217;t bother to repeat false propaganda about UNDHR covering homosexual conduct and do not mistake UNDHR for the unsuccessful and useless  &#8221; 2008 UN Declaration on Sexual Orientation &#038; Gender Identity&#8221; signed by a small fraction of the world&#8217;s 192 nations.</p>
<p>I would imagine that your American and European governments will start their boycotting campaign by banning from their markets all barrels of crude oil produced by pro-American client states in the Arabian Gulf  since most stipulate death penalty by hanging for gay sex or some other extreme punishment. I am sure that the governments of Singapore and Malaysia are shitting their pants at the thought of being boycotted by the West for refusing to decriminalize sodomy. Even the senate of the small Republic of Burundi called the bluff of western governments and Euro-American Gay Lobby and criminalized gay sex.  An apartheid South African-style boycott? Are you kidding me? Nobody is gonna boycott Uganda, not now that the east african nation has struck commercial quantities of crude oil. Important world decisions are not  made the foundation of sentiments and emotions, they are made based on <b>realpolitik</b> and  <b>vested interests </b> Ken please learn !!</p>
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		By: ken		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[James   ~ Aug 4, 2010 at 12:14 pm



&quot;Ken,

welcome on board. I hope you are getting into a subject that you are well informed about. And I hope we&#039;ll have an objective discussion here. &quot;



I&#039;m well informed on the subject of sexual orientation.  



&quot;Your rant against Maazi already exhibits your lack of understanding about Uganda&quot;



My &quot;rant&quot; as you called it was about sexual orientation, not Uganda.  And was directed at Maazi&#039;s mis-perceptions of what it actually means (and doesn&#039;t mean) to be of a particular orientation. 



&quot;I would refer you to Anthropological write ups about Uganda.&quot;



Fine, post the citations.



&quot;When one does not agree with you, your usual stand is always to demonise him/her.&quot;



Really, you manged to glean this information about me from a single short post.  Without every having seen how I inter-act with others I disagree with?  Does anyone else posting here demonize those they disagree with?  Does Maazi? Do you ?  



&quot;This will not deter our committment to defending our sovereignity.&quot;



You do have a right to your sovereignty.  But others (people and countries) have the right to disagree with you.  And to boycott or otherwise isolate you if you pass discriminatory legislation.  Just as was done 30 years ago against the apartied policies of South Africa.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James   ~ Aug 4, 2010 at 12:14 pm</p>
<p>&#8220;Ken,</p>
<p>welcome on board. I hope you are getting into a subject that you are well informed about. And I hope we&#8217;ll have an objective discussion here. &#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m well informed on the subject of sexual orientation.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Your rant against Maazi already exhibits your lack of understanding about Uganda&#8221;</p>
<p>My &#8220;rant&#8221; as you called it was about sexual orientation, not Uganda.  And was directed at Maazi&#8217;s mis-perceptions of what it actually means (and doesn&#8217;t mean) to be of a particular orientation. </p>
<p>&#8220;I would refer you to Anthropological write ups about Uganda.&#8221;</p>
<p>Fine, post the citations.</p>
<p>&#8220;When one does not agree with you, your usual stand is always to demonise him/her.&#8221;</p>
<p>Really, you manged to glean this information about me from a single short post.  Without every having seen how I inter-act with others I disagree with?  Does anyone else posting here demonize those they disagree with?  Does Maazi? Do you ?  </p>
<p>&#8220;This will not deter our committment to defending our sovereignity.&#8221;</p>
<p>You do have a right to your sovereignty.  But others (people and countries) have the right to disagree with you.  And to boycott or otherwise isolate you if you pass discriminatory legislation.  Just as was done 30 years ago against the apartied policies of South Africa.</p>
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		By: Lynn David		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[And then in 2009 according to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amnesty.org/en/region/uganda/report-2009&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Amnesty International&lt;/a&gt;..... 

&lt;blockquote&gt;In October, a government minister publicly labelled homosexuality and lesbianism a disease and declared that Uganda would seek to widen the scope of its legislation criminalizing homosexuality. In the month following the declaration, a number of LGBT activists and individuals were arrested and faced torture, including sexual assault, and other ill-treatment by police and security personnel while in detention. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

If my memory serves that minister was Dr. Nsaba Buturo, but it could have been Bahati.



And then, as far as I know this was in the Monitor:  Izama Angelo: Government warns UNAIDS over gays on The Monitor web site, 29th November , 2004, reported by Financial Times Information, Global News Wire &#8211; Asia Africa Intelligence Wire.



&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;The minister of information, Dr James Nsaba Buturo, yesterday said he had written to UNAIDS and the Uganda Aids Commission to protest the inclusion of support for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender groups because they are illegal under Uganda&#039;s laws. The Uganda AIDS Commission has denied they are developing such a policy but the government position is very clear, homosexuality is illegal. &lt;strong&gt;Buturo said he was aware of a letter reportedly written by the minister of internal affairs, Dr Ruhakana Rugunda, to the police, urging them to crack down on gay groups&lt;/strong&gt;.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And then in 2009 according to <a href="http://www.amnesty.org/en/region/uganda/report-2009" rel="nofollow">Amnesty International</a>&#8230;.. </p>
<blockquote><p>In October, a government minister publicly labelled homosexuality and lesbianism a disease and declared that Uganda would seek to widen the scope of its legislation criminalizing homosexuality. In the month following the declaration, a number of LGBT activists and individuals were arrested and faced torture, including sexual assault, and other ill-treatment by police and security personnel while in detention. </p></blockquote>
<p>If my memory serves that minister was Dr. Nsaba Buturo, but it could have been Bahati.</p>
<p>And then, as far as I know this was in the Monitor:  Izama Angelo: Government warns UNAIDS over gays on The Monitor web site, 29th November , 2004, reported by Financial Times Information, Global News Wire &#8211; Asia Africa Intelligence Wire.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The minister of information, Dr James Nsaba Buturo, yesterday said he had written to UNAIDS and the Uganda Aids Commission to protest the inclusion of support for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender groups because they are illegal under Uganda&#8217;s laws. The Uganda AIDS Commission has denied they are developing such a policy but the government position is very clear, homosexuality is illegal. <strong>Buturo said he was aware of a letter reportedly written by the minister of internal affairs, Dr Ruhakana Rugunda, to the police, urging them to crack down on gay groups</strong>.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;TYPO CORRECTION:&lt;/b&gt;



Important world decisions are not made ON the foundations of sentiments and emotions, they are made based on &lt;b&gt;realpolitik&lt;/b&gt; and&lt;b&gt; vested interests&lt;/b&gt;. Ken please learn !!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>TYPO CORRECTION:</b></p>
<p>Important world decisions are not made ON the foundations of sentiments and emotions, they are made based on <b>realpolitik</b> and<b> vested interests</b>. Ken please learn !!</p>
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