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	Comments on: Canyon Ridge Christian Church in conversation with Martin Ssempa	</title>
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		By: Leslie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leslie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2010 20:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Having found that a church I was so comfortable in learning about the love a guidance and tolerance of God, I am a shamed to have been in the very forum that would condemn my beautiful and loving gay son. By standing with all of you praying for forgiveness and guidance and the belief that we were all equal, I&#039;m truly saddened. Who are you to judge! I guess its okay for you to watch porno and degrade women for your enjoyment, or the drink and drug until you have nothing left, cheating on their wives or husbands without any shame? I could go on about the weaknesses of people, but to condemn someone who is born to be an amazing artist with many talents that you could never achieve in your whole lifetime because they are attracted and safe sexually with the same sex.  Sorry but it is something that is real. Some abuse it, but most just want love  and relationships like you and me.

 Understand, you are not God. And where in the bible does it say to condemn anyone!!!! ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having found that a church I was so comfortable in learning about the love a guidance and tolerance of God, I am a shamed to have been in the very forum that would condemn my beautiful and loving gay son. By standing with all of you praying for forgiveness and guidance and the belief that we were all equal, I&#8217;m truly saddened. Who are you to judge! I guess its okay for you to watch porno and degrade women for your enjoyment, or the drink and drug until you have nothing left, cheating on their wives or husbands without any shame? I could go on about the weaknesses of people, but to condemn someone who is born to be an amazing artist with many talents that you could never achieve in your whole lifetime because they are attracted and safe sexually with the same sex.  Sorry but it is something that is real. Some abuse it, but most just want love  and relationships like you and me.</p>
<p> Understand, you are not God. And where in the bible does it say to condemn anyone!!!! ?</p>
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		By: Natalie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Natalie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 16:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m South African and very proudly African! Sadly though, this rather primitive &quot;kill the gay&quot; anti-gay campaign and narrow minded thinking and judging, is exactly what makes Africa look so backward and Christianity so unappealing! It takes me back to events such as the Crusades where precious lives that God intended to know Him where slain in the name of that same God! Africans, can you not remember a time - not all that long ago - when you and the rest of the world looked upon South Africa in abhorance for the way in which blacks where treated by whites; for the bills that allowed for the jailing of couples of cross culture? I thought the day was near when we as the Church would be able to look back and in the light of history and such events as the Crusades, say &quot;Look how far we&#039;ve come.&quot; Clearly that day is still far off! 



To those who call themselves Christians in Uganda, and everywhere really, I would say this: Remember that how you act reflects on the Church globally. Your persecution of gays in Uganda effects the progress others may be making on the other side of the world in leading their gay friends/family/collegues or whomever, to Christ and ulitmately to the Holy Spirit who is the only one who can truly convict and bring change. You claim to be upholding the Word of God and Truth but did Jesus not also say this: &quot;A new command I give you: &lt;strong&gt;Love one another.&lt;/strong&gt; As I have loved you, so you must love one another. &lt;strong&gt;By this all men will know that you are my disciples&lt;/strong&gt;, if you love one another.&quot; If this is how you show love, it&#039;s no wonder so many want nothing to do with the Church!

I can only hope and pray that globally, we who call ourselves followers of Jesus would be able to see and together be amazed at the grace that was given each of us, when we ALL were undeserving! And in light of that, live the lives of love that Jesus called us to.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m South African and very proudly African! Sadly though, this rather primitive &#8220;kill the gay&#8221; anti-gay campaign and narrow minded thinking and judging, is exactly what makes Africa look so backward and Christianity so unappealing! It takes me back to events such as the Crusades where precious lives that God intended to know Him where slain in the name of that same God! Africans, can you not remember a time &#8211; not all that long ago &#8211; when you and the rest of the world looked upon South Africa in abhorance for the way in which blacks where treated by whites; for the bills that allowed for the jailing of couples of cross culture? I thought the day was near when we as the Church would be able to look back and in the light of history and such events as the Crusades, say &#8220;Look how far we&#8217;ve come.&#8221; Clearly that day is still far off! </p>
<p>To those who call themselves Christians in Uganda, and everywhere really, I would say this: Remember that how you act reflects on the Church globally. Your persecution of gays in Uganda effects the progress others may be making on the other side of the world in leading their gay friends/family/collegues or whomever, to Christ and ulitmately to the Holy Spirit who is the only one who can truly convict and bring change. You claim to be upholding the Word of God and Truth but did Jesus not also say this: &#8220;A new command I give you: <strong>Love one another.</strong> As I have loved you, so you must love one another. <strong>By this all men will know that you are my disciples</strong>, if you love one another.&#8221; If this is how you show love, it&#8217;s no wonder so many want nothing to do with the Church!</p>
<p>I can only hope and pray that globally, we who call ourselves followers of Jesus would be able to see and together be amazed at the grace that was given each of us, when we ALL were undeserving! And in light of that, live the lives of love that Jesus called us to.</p>
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		By: blake askew		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blake askew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 06:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This Bill instigates mass murder and prejudice. For those of you supporting this bill, remember years ago there was a man in europe who believed certain people groups were also the scum of society-



His name was Adolf Hitler and over six million jews, gypsies, poles, gays etc were gassed and murdered.



This bill is the same.



Those of you who support Ssempa are siding with evil. Jesus Christ would NOT approve.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Bill instigates mass murder and prejudice. For those of you supporting this bill, remember years ago there was a man in europe who believed certain people groups were also the scum of society-</p>
<p>His name was Adolf Hitler and over six million jews, gypsies, poles, gays etc were gassed and murdered.</p>
<p>This bill is the same.</p>
<p>Those of you who support Ssempa are siding with evil. Jesus Christ would NOT approve.</p>
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		By: gayuganda		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow Wycliffe,



Sometimes I think I love hearing from people like you just because it is so easy to poke holes in your argument.



List down the things that you are accusing Warren of... and then look closely in the mirror. You will see them, so well reflected, that you may actually miss that joke!



See, I dont even claim to be a Christian, but your kind of &#039;blindness&#039; reminds me of the Jesus&#039; pharisees, the one who was taking a stick out of anothers eyes when he had a log in his.... Very apt, that teacher, dont you think? He was no proffessor, but mate, even this non-believer salutes the timelessness of his lessons.



So, Warren is promoting the &#039;poop eating vice&#039;?? Ugh!, I am one of the poop eaters... self confessed, and Ugandan too! would it be wrong to assay whether you are one of Ssempa&#039;s Church people? Sigh, you must be.



Maloba, shame on you.... see, a poop eater like me can look at your Christianity and laugh, because you make it a joke. And, as an African, I tell you that, different from what you sincerely believe, we gay Africans have always been around. Why do you feel the need to deny us? Are we so terrible?



ha ha ha ha, Wycliffe....!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Wycliffe,</p>
<p>Sometimes I think I love hearing from people like you just because it is so easy to poke holes in your argument.</p>
<p>List down the things that you are accusing Warren of&#8230; and then look closely in the mirror. You will see them, so well reflected, that you may actually miss that joke!</p>
<p>See, I dont even claim to be a Christian, but your kind of &#8216;blindness&#8217; reminds me of the Jesus&#8217; pharisees, the one who was taking a stick out of anothers eyes when he had a log in his&#8230;. Very apt, that teacher, dont you think? He was no proffessor, but mate, even this non-believer salutes the timelessness of his lessons.</p>
<p>So, Warren is promoting the &#8216;poop eating vice&#8217;?? Ugh!, I am one of the poop eaters&#8230; self confessed, and Ugandan too! would it be wrong to assay whether you are one of Ssempa&#8217;s Church people? Sigh, you must be.</p>
<p>Maloba, shame on you&#8230;. see, a poop eater like me can look at your Christianity and laugh, because you make it a joke. And, as an African, I tell you that, different from what you sincerely believe, we gay Africans have always been around. Why do you feel the need to deny us? Are we so terrible?</p>
<p>ha ha ha ha, Wycliffe&#8230;.!</p>
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		By: Timothy Kincaid		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timothy Kincaid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;promoting the pop eating vice.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



is this a reference to Ssempa&#039;s &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlmIeALoYcA&#038;feature=player_embedded&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;eat da poo poo&lt;/a&gt;&quot; statements?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>promoting the pop eating vice.</p></blockquote>
<p>is this a reference to Ssempa&#8217;s &#8220;<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlmIeALoYcA&amp;feature=player_embedded" rel="nofollow">eat da poo poo</a>&#8221; statements?</p>
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