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		By: Mary		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Maazi,



the sexual liberty issue is a difficult issue to &quot;control&quot;  Many heterosexuals are engaging in unbiblical acts and yet, they go unnoticed.  Seems like a hypocrisy to me.  But I do understand where you are coming from, I just don&#039;t agree with your method.  Some well meaning christians (even in America or Western cultures) have made some bad mitakes that caused great harm to many people.



I hope Uganda finds other choices for managing their christian faith.  It doesn&#039;t have to be a liberal or western response.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maazi,</p>
<p>the sexual liberty issue is a difficult issue to &#8220;control&#8221;  Many heterosexuals are engaging in unbiblical acts and yet, they go unnoticed.  Seems like a hypocrisy to me.  But I do understand where you are coming from, I just don&#8217;t agree with your method.  Some well meaning christians (even in America or Western cultures) have made some bad mitakes that caused great harm to many people.</p>
<p>I hope Uganda finds other choices for managing their christian faith.  It doesn&#8217;t have to be a liberal or western response.</p>
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		By: Maazi N.C.O		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maazi N.C.O]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 20:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mary, 



We cannot adopt libertarian measures such as legalised buggery in the sphere of privacy while denying right of same-sex marriage--- as the West did in 1960s and 1970s. History informs us that these measures are ineffective and will only give gayism room to breathe and grow into a powerful juggernaut. I am not a fan of religious fundamentalists, but I completely agree with Pastor Martin Ssempa that if we give practitioners of gayism a &quot;centimetre&quot; of space, they will demand a &quot;metre&quot; of space. If we acceed to that demand then they will demand a &quot;kilometre&quot; of space. We do not want to go to sleep and wake up 20 years down the line and find ourselves struggling to define the meaning of marriage and the meaning of adoption. We don&#039;t want to struggle for the right to keep pro-gay literature away from our children and the right to express our opinions without fear of censure. I read about the former Miss California who lost her chance to be Miss USA for expressing her views that marriage should be restricted to a man and a woman. Her libertarian conviction that gays should be free to do whatever they want to do without government sanction failed to impress the powerful Euro-American Gay Lobby. An uncompromising Lobby that demands all or nothing. You must understand that we cannot allow such nonsense to happen to us here in Uganda (and by extension, the African continent). The Euro-American Gays are trying to establish a beachhead to our continent via the East and Southern African regions. We are determined to cut that nascent link before it becomes impossible. Personally, I want all african nations to defy hypocritical western indignation and bolster their sexual offences laws with clauses that prohibit gay advocacy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary, </p>
<p>We cannot adopt libertarian measures such as legalised buggery in the sphere of privacy while denying right of same-sex marriage&#8212; as the West did in 1960s and 1970s. History informs us that these measures are ineffective and will only give gayism room to breathe and grow into a powerful juggernaut. I am not a fan of religious fundamentalists, but I completely agree with Pastor Martin Ssempa that if we give practitioners of gayism a &#8220;centimetre&#8221; of space, they will demand a &#8220;metre&#8221; of space. If we acceed to that demand then they will demand a &#8220;kilometre&#8221; of space. We do not want to go to sleep and wake up 20 years down the line and find ourselves struggling to define the meaning of marriage and the meaning of adoption. We don&#8217;t want to struggle for the right to keep pro-gay literature away from our children and the right to express our opinions without fear of censure. I read about the former Miss California who lost her chance to be Miss USA for expressing her views that marriage should be restricted to a man and a woman. Her libertarian conviction that gays should be free to do whatever they want to do without government sanction failed to impress the powerful Euro-American Gay Lobby. An uncompromising Lobby that demands all or nothing. You must understand that we cannot allow such nonsense to happen to us here in Uganda (and by extension, the African continent). The Euro-American Gays are trying to establish a beachhead to our continent via the East and Southern African regions. We are determined to cut that nascent link before it becomes impossible. Personally, I want all african nations to defy hypocritical western indignation and bolster their sexual offences laws with clauses that prohibit gay advocacy.</p>
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		By: Mary		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 04:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Maazi N.C.O.,



It&#039;s not my place, however, as an ex lesbian I hope that the laws being suggested to control gayism in your country, offer another choice for those who are gay and know gays to respond rather than with criminal justice.  



It is your country and homeland.  I disagree with the criminalization of gayism and the punishment of death for any reason.  That is not my christian belief of how to respond.   In the end, I do hope that Uganda finds a way to uphold it&#039;s christian faith with less fear and less hatred for those who are different.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maazi N.C.O.,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not my place, however, as an ex lesbian I hope that the laws being suggested to control gayism in your country, offer another choice for those who are gay and know gays to respond rather than with criminal justice.  </p>
<p>It is your country and homeland.  I disagree with the criminalization of gayism and the punishment of death for any reason.  That is not my christian belief of how to respond.   In the end, I do hope that Uganda finds a way to uphold it&#8217;s christian faith with less fear and less hatred for those who are different.</p>
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		By: Maazi N.C.O		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maazi N.C.O]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 03:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Timothy Kincaid,

 

For the vast majority of African people, gayism is one of the worst forms of sexual depravity ever known to mankind. This is our irrevocable position which cannot be changed through racially charged insults punctuated with words like &quot;uneducated&quot;, &quot;primitive&quot;, &quot;superstitious&quot; and so on. Please do not delude yourself--- The United States of America may have global influence, but it is not the centre of the universe. It is this disgraceful &quot;We-Are-Superior&quot; mentality that led the extremely ignorant Bush regime (with support of equally ignorant Americans)  to go to war in Iraq on the false pretence of hunting nuclear weapons and the delusion of exporting Jeffersonian  Democracy. 



On the issue of economic blackmail if we continue to reject gayism, let me announce that this will be coming to an end soon--- in at least one nation. Uganda has now struck commercial quantites of crude oil, so the days of using useless donor aid packages as a means of humiliating neocolonial control is coming to an end. I know that the venal Ugandan political class will steal some of the accruing petro-dollars. But it is better they steal money earned unconditionally from our own natural resource than have the double whammy of agreeing to surrender our sovereignty and culture in exchange for foreign bribes (i.e. western donor aid) , which will still be stolen anyway by the thieving political class !!



Please quit your illogical convoluted gay propaganda which equates legalisation of homosexuality with economic prosperity, progressiveness and modernity. I have given the example of first world Singapore where gayism is officially illegal. Malaysia--the economic Asian Tiger-- keeps sodomy firmly criminalized. The celebrated  Dubai City in UAE  with those shiny skyscrapers is a prosperous place, but any  Gay hanky-panky over there will send you straight to a police cell. 



Contrary to your ignorant stereotypes, African economies are doing very well despite the global credit crunch and this is not solely down to prices of natural resources. Even African nations that have little natural resources are doing quite well. To prove this independently, please get hold of data from  IMF, World Bank and UNCTAD. Even western media outlets such as Bloomberg News, Reuters, The Economist and Financial Times of London  have written on these gradual improvements in African lives, driven largely by improving governance standards and an emerging private sector.  Of course, poverty remains a huge problem. There is also now a lot of non-Western investors in Africa. Examples include China, Brazil, India, Gulf Arab States, South Korea, Turkey, Israel, Russia, etc. 



So Timothy, don&#039;t worry, soon  the West will no longer be in a position to blackmail and humiliate African people with money. For now we will stand steadfast and resist any western imposition on our way of life.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timothy Kincaid,</p>
<p>For the vast majority of African people, gayism is one of the worst forms of sexual depravity ever known to mankind. This is our irrevocable position which cannot be changed through racially charged insults punctuated with words like &#8220;uneducated&#8221;, &#8220;primitive&#8221;, &#8220;superstitious&#8221; and so on. Please do not delude yourself&#8212; The United States of America may have global influence, but it is not the centre of the universe. It is this disgraceful &#8220;We-Are-Superior&#8221; mentality that led the extremely ignorant Bush regime (with support of equally ignorant Americans)  to go to war in Iraq on the false pretence of hunting nuclear weapons and the delusion of exporting Jeffersonian  Democracy. </p>
<p>On the issue of economic blackmail if we continue to reject gayism, let me announce that this will be coming to an end soon&#8212; in at least one nation. Uganda has now struck commercial quantites of crude oil, so the days of using useless donor aid packages as a means of humiliating neocolonial control is coming to an end. I know that the venal Ugandan political class will steal some of the accruing petro-dollars. But it is better they steal money earned unconditionally from our own natural resource than have the double whammy of agreeing to surrender our sovereignty and culture in exchange for foreign bribes (i.e. western donor aid) , which will still be stolen anyway by the thieving political class !!</p>
<p>Please quit your illogical convoluted gay propaganda which equates legalisation of homosexuality with economic prosperity, progressiveness and modernity. I have given the example of first world Singapore where gayism is officially illegal. Malaysia&#8211;the economic Asian Tiger&#8211; keeps sodomy firmly criminalized. The celebrated  Dubai City in UAE  with those shiny skyscrapers is a prosperous place, but any  Gay hanky-panky over there will send you straight to a police cell. </p>
<p>Contrary to your ignorant stereotypes, African economies are doing very well despite the global credit crunch and this is not solely down to prices of natural resources. Even African nations that have little natural resources are doing quite well. To prove this independently, please get hold of data from  IMF, World Bank and UNCTAD. Even western media outlets such as Bloomberg News, Reuters, The Economist and Financial Times of London  have written on these gradual improvements in African lives, driven largely by improving governance standards and an emerging private sector.  Of course, poverty remains a huge problem. There is also now a lot of non-Western investors in Africa. Examples include China, Brazil, India, Gulf Arab States, South Korea, Turkey, Israel, Russia, etc. </p>
<p>So Timothy, don&#8217;t worry, soon  the West will no longer be in a position to blackmail and humiliate African people with money. For now we will stand steadfast and resist any western imposition on our way of life.</p>
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		By: Mary		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 00:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As well, Timothy, there are places in the world where I cannot step foot either.  I am glad that we have a different culture in America (to some extent) and probably will never go to Uganda for the very fact that my past could have me imprisoned and killed (just like you).  While I do not agree with the criminalization of homosexuality and certainly am against capital punishment regardless of the reason,  butting heads on a blog or forum like this is not making headway on the issue and only deepening the divide.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As well, Timothy, there are places in the world where I cannot step foot either.  I am glad that we have a different culture in America (to some extent) and probably will never go to Uganda for the very fact that my past could have me imprisoned and killed (just like you).  While I do not agree with the criminalization of homosexuality and certainly am against capital punishment regardless of the reason,  butting heads on a blog or forum like this is not making headway on the issue and only deepening the divide.</p>
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