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	Comments on: Sexual Identity Therapy Framework resources	</title>
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		By: Eddy		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mark--

I would think that not knowing LaBarbera or Higgins personally would suggest that their &#039;portrayal or critique&#039; was not personally motivated...and, it seems that they&#039;ve expressed their own conflict pretty clearly. 



It seems that supporting the individual&#039;s choice, even if it includes embracing and integrating homosexuality, is central to SIT   --and LaBarbera and Higgins are expressing concerns about the embracing and integrating. While I do believe that, as a courtesy, they should have addressed this with you personally or via the link, their concerns revolve around the issue of &#039;sin&#039; and &#039;eternal consequence&#039;. Experience has clearly demonstrated that actual discussion of those issues or concerns fails miserably in any open forum. 



I concur with Warren&#039;s opening statement. Even their critique has--and will--serve you well. It did manage to be somewhat objective...people can read it, hear what they object to, and then decide for themselves if SIT is a viable alternative for them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark&#8211;</p>
<p>I would think that not knowing LaBarbera or Higgins personally would suggest that their &#8216;portrayal or critique&#8217; was not personally motivated&#8230;and, it seems that they&#8217;ve expressed their own conflict pretty clearly. </p>
<p>It seems that supporting the individual&#8217;s choice, even if it includes embracing and integrating homosexuality, is central to SIT   &#8211;and LaBarbera and Higgins are expressing concerns about the embracing and integrating. While I do believe that, as a courtesy, they should have addressed this with you personally or via the link, their concerns revolve around the issue of &#8216;sin&#8217; and &#8216;eternal consequence&#8217;. Experience has clearly demonstrated that actual discussion of those issues or concerns fails miserably in any open forum. </p>
<p>I concur with Warren&#8217;s opening statement. Even their critique has&#8211;and will&#8211;serve you well. It did manage to be somewhat objective&#8230;people can read it, hear what they object to, and then decide for themselves if SIT is a viable alternative for them.</p>
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		By: Byron		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 13:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For shame, you &quot;de facto pro-homosexual activist&quot;, you.  



Methinks &lt;strong&gt;somebody&lt;/strong&gt; needs to get a life, and/or begin telling the truth, and I don&#039;t want to name any names, but his name could rhyme with &quot;Schmeter Schnagarbara&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For shame, you &#8220;de facto pro-homosexual activist&#8221;, you.  </p>
<p>Methinks <strong>somebody</strong> needs to get a life, and/or begin telling the truth, and I don&#8217;t want to name any names, but his name could rhyme with &#8220;Schmeter Schnagarbara&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Mark Yarhouse		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 01:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know either Laurie Higgins or Peter LaBarbara personally, so I don&#039;t fully understand the purpose behind the way the framework is being portrayed and critiqued. When Warren and I first introduced the SITF in 2006, we did so on a web site designed to solicit feedback, and I have appreciated receiving feedback on it from people who have found it helpful and from those who have raised questions or concerns. Also, it was not meant to be the &#039;final word&#039; on how to provide services, but to be a starting point for an ongoing discussion. However, the concerns expressed here were not posted to the web site, nor were they sent to me personally (which is common in some circles); rather, it has taken the form more of an attack that makes it difficult to fully appreciate some of the legitimate questions that could be raised and are worth discussing, particularly for Christians interested in counselor education and training. Unfortunately, I think the message is lost in the delivery, as the way it is conveyed is more likely to polarize people who are for/against the framework rather that foster a discussion that could be constructive.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know either Laurie Higgins or Peter LaBarbara personally, so I don&#8217;t fully understand the purpose behind the way the framework is being portrayed and critiqued. When Warren and I first introduced the SITF in 2006, we did so on a web site designed to solicit feedback, and I have appreciated receiving feedback on it from people who have found it helpful and from those who have raised questions or concerns. Also, it was not meant to be the &#8216;final word&#8217; on how to provide services, but to be a starting point for an ongoing discussion. However, the concerns expressed here were not posted to the web site, nor were they sent to me personally (which is common in some circles); rather, it has taken the form more of an attack that makes it difficult to fully appreciate some of the legitimate questions that could be raised and are worth discussing, particularly for Christians interested in counselor education and training. Unfortunately, I think the message is lost in the delivery, as the way it is conveyed is more likely to polarize people who are for/against the framework rather that foster a discussion that could be constructive.</p>
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		By: Timothy Kincaid		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/04/28/sexual-identity-therapy-framework-resources/#comment-39159</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sure that Mark Yarhouse is delighted that he is not a &quot;&lt;em&gt;one-time pro-”change” advocate who has become a de facto pro-homosexual activist — talking down the possibility of lasting, ex-”gay” change for people caught up in homosexuality even as he disingenuously claims to adhere to biblical orthodoxy.&lt;/em&gt;&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure that Mark Yarhouse is delighted that he is not a &#8220;<em>one-time pro-”change” advocate who has become a de facto pro-homosexual activist — talking down the possibility of lasting, ex-”gay” change for people caught up in homosexuality even as he disingenuously claims to adhere to biblical orthodoxy.</em>&#8220;</p>
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