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		By: Timothy Kincaid		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timothy Kincaid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 18:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[David,



Chicago was a lot of fun.  I had only ever seen the movie before and a stage play always has more connection.  Interestingly, the feels of the show was quite different from the movie.



The movie was a story in which the songs illustrate the plot.  The stage musical was a series of character studies and the plot is more of a frame on which the social commentary is displayed (the original play was written in the 20&#039;s and based on real events).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>Chicago was a lot of fun.  I had only ever seen the movie before and a stage play always has more connection.  Interestingly, the feels of the show was quite different from the movie.</p>
<p>The movie was a story in which the songs illustrate the plot.  The stage musical was a series of character studies and the plot is more of a frame on which the social commentary is displayed (the original play was written in the 20&#8217;s and based on real events).</p>
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		By: Jayhuck		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jayhuck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 23:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[David,



&lt;blockquote&gt;I think some in the GLBT rights movement imagine that Christians endorse all sorts of heterosexual families and forbid homosexual families…I think they are confused here. Western culture, with it’s Christian influences, has learned to accomodate all sorts of heterosexual couplings and families; in part under the rubric of tolerance. But Christianity, per se, has not changed in its version of what is proscribed sexual behavior.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



The difference I here David is that you don&#039;t see conservative Christian folk out drumming up or sanctioning legislation to forbid certain heterosexuals and certain heterosexual couples from marrying - not really.  I haven&#039;t seen any legislation that prevents heterosexuals from having drive through marriage chapels, etc.  Yet you do have legislation that prevents homosexual couples who are likely to be tax-paying, law-abiding citizens, who contribute to their community, who may have been in a committed relationship for years, and who may have children, from being allowed to marry in the eyes of the SECULAR state - Gay couples all over the place can have religious ceremonies/marriages, that&#039;s not as much an issue anymore, but one you think would be more of a problem for some Christians, but no.



&lt;blockquote&gt;But Christianity, per se, has not changed in its version of what is proscribed sexual behavior.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



That really depends on which Christian group you talk to and what sexual behavior you&#039;re talking about]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<blockquote><p>I think some in the GLBT rights movement imagine that Christians endorse all sorts of heterosexual families and forbid homosexual families…I think they are confused here. Western culture, with it’s Christian influences, has learned to accomodate all sorts of heterosexual couplings and families; in part under the rubric of tolerance. But Christianity, per se, has not changed in its version of what is proscribed sexual behavior.</p></blockquote>
<p>The difference I here David is that you don&#8217;t see conservative Christian folk out drumming up or sanctioning legislation to forbid certain heterosexuals and certain heterosexual couples from marrying &#8211; not really.  I haven&#8217;t seen any legislation that prevents heterosexuals from having drive through marriage chapels, etc.  Yet you do have legislation that prevents homosexual couples who are likely to be tax-paying, law-abiding citizens, who contribute to their community, who may have been in a committed relationship for years, and who may have children, from being allowed to marry in the eyes of the SECULAR state &#8211; Gay couples all over the place can have religious ceremonies/marriages, that&#8217;s not as much an issue anymore, but one you think would be more of a problem for some Christians, but no.</p>
<blockquote><p>But Christianity, per se, has not changed in its version of what is proscribed sexual behavior.</p></blockquote>
<p>That really depends on which Christian group you talk to and what sexual behavior you&#8217;re talking about</p>
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		By: David Blakeslee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Blakeslee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 20:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Keeping it light...



How was Chicago?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keeping it light&#8230;</p>
<p>How was Chicago?</p>
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		By: Timothy Kincaid		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timothy Kincaid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 19:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[David,



I think that we have resolved that there is such a thing as a hater.



But now it seems to me that we have not resolved the second issue: whether adjectives can be used in discussion.



I recognize that some people dislike &quot;labels&quot; and &quot;boxes&quot; and &quot;names&quot;.  But I am uncertain how to communicate differences without using adjectives or adjective-based nouns.



I have heard some people say, &quot;well, everyone is an individual&quot;.  And that is true.  But we need some form of language to differentiate between the individuals who engage in anti-Christian activities and those who go get along with their Christian neighbors.



This is an essential aspect of language.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>I think that we have resolved that there is such a thing as a hater.</p>
<p>But now it seems to me that we have not resolved the second issue: whether adjectives can be used in discussion.</p>
<p>I recognize that some people dislike &#8220;labels&#8221; and &#8220;boxes&#8221; and &#8220;names&#8221;.  But I am uncertain how to communicate differences without using adjectives or adjective-based nouns.</p>
<p>I have heard some people say, &#8220;well, everyone is an individual&#8221;.  And that is true.  But we need some form of language to differentiate between the individuals who engage in anti-Christian activities and those who go get along with their Christian neighbors.</p>
<p>This is an essential aspect of language.</p>
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		By: David Blakeslee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Blakeslee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 19:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When I was in graduate school, at Pepperdine, I had a heated disagreement with a great professor.



Near the end of it, she said, &quot;I feel like you are putting me in a box, and I don&#039;t like it.&quot;



I reassured her, &quot;I am putting you in a big box.&quot; 



I don&#039;t think it made her feel any better.



Names are like boxes...the most accusatory are the smallest of all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was in graduate school, at Pepperdine, I had a heated disagreement with a great professor.</p>
<p>Near the end of it, she said, &#8220;I feel like you are putting me in a box, and I don&#8217;t like it.&#8221;</p>
<p>I reassured her, &#8220;I am putting you in a big box.&#8221; </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it made her feel any better.</p>
<p>Names are like boxes&#8230;the most accusatory are the smallest of all.</p>
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