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		By: Michael Bussee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Bussee]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Does anyone else get the impression that all the negative press has had a momentum-lessening effect?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone else get the impression that all the negative press has had a momentum-lessening effect?</p>
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		By: Michael Bussee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Bussee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 00:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;The bill would have happened without the Fellowship or the conference in my opinion. However, I do think the conference could have stopped it before it happened if the participants would not have gone, or would have urged them not to do it. &lt;/blockquote&gt;I wholeheartedly agree with Warren&#039;s opinion on this.



Eddy, Thanks.  I occasionally appreciate yours too.  :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The bill would have happened without the Fellowship or the conference in my opinion. However, I do think the conference could have stopped it before it happened if the participants would not have gone, or would have urged them not to do it. </p></blockquote>
<p>I wholeheartedly agree with Warren&#8217;s opinion on this.</p>
<p>Eddy, Thanks.  I occasionally appreciate yours too.  🙂</p>
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		By: Zoe Brain		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zoe Brain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 22:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Eddy - your questions were good ones.



I think we can say that the conference took a sub-optimal situation and made it far, far worse. Beyond that, I don&#039;t know.



And the support for the bill is continuing in the USA. Even from people who by now must have read it, and realised what it entails. They continue to mis-represent it anyway. In some ways that&#039;s encouraging - because it means they know that if the truth were known and broadcast, their supporters wouldn&#039;t, er, support it.



We see the same pattern elsewhere: a bill regarding equal employment for GLBT people has to be labelled the &quot;pedophile protection bill&quot; to get support. The same thing that would allow trans and intersexed people to use taxis, buses, and yes, drinking fountains has to be excoriated as a &quot;bathroom bill&quot; that would allow perverts to operate in restrooms, um, un-molested so to speak. 



The majority of people who oppose such bills do so because they&#039;ve been told by people they trust some serious porkies. Some of those that tell them this do so out of ignorance, but I&#039;m afraid to say that the great majority do not, they&#039;re deliberately lying. How do we know? Because the facts have been brought to their attention, repeatedly, over months, and they refuse to engage in discussion. They just repeat the lies louder, and more often.



There are exceptions. These are few. 



One can speculate as to the motives. But I&#039;ve observed there&#039;s a strong correlation between these scare campaigns and fund-raising efforts. I don&#039;t think it&#039;s personal for many, just business.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eddy &#8211; your questions were good ones.</p>
<p>I think we can say that the conference took a sub-optimal situation and made it far, far worse. Beyond that, I don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>And the support for the bill is continuing in the USA. Even from people who by now must have read it, and realised what it entails. They continue to mis-represent it anyway. In some ways that&#8217;s encouraging &#8211; because it means they know that if the truth were known and broadcast, their supporters wouldn&#8217;t, er, support it.</p>
<p>We see the same pattern elsewhere: a bill regarding equal employment for GLBT people has to be labelled the &#8220;pedophile protection bill&#8221; to get support. The same thing that would allow trans and intersexed people to use taxis, buses, and yes, drinking fountains has to be excoriated as a &#8220;bathroom bill&#8221; that would allow perverts to operate in restrooms, um, un-molested so to speak. </p>
<p>The majority of people who oppose such bills do so because they&#8217;ve been told by people they trust some serious porkies. Some of those that tell them this do so out of ignorance, but I&#8217;m afraid to say that the great majority do not, they&#8217;re deliberately lying. How do we know? Because the facts have been brought to their attention, repeatedly, over months, and they refuse to engage in discussion. They just repeat the lies louder, and more often.</p>
<p>There are exceptions. These are few. </p>
<p>One can speculate as to the motives. But I&#8217;ve observed there&#8217;s a strong correlation between these scare campaigns and fund-raising efforts. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s personal for many, just business.</p>
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		By: Eddy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eddy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 16:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Warren, I appreciate that. 



And, Michael, I know I don&#039;t say this often, but I appreciated your response as well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Warren, I appreciate that. </p>
<p>And, Michael, I know I don&#8217;t say this often, but I appreciated your response as well.</p>
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		By: Warren		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Warren]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 16:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Eddy - I am always evaluating this but as of now, I think that the Fellowship core group in Uganda was blindsided by the bill but then was slow to react to it. Once Jeff Sharlet brought the relationship between Bahati and Buturo and the Fellowship out in the open, many Fellowship related people publicly opposed it and took some steps to talk Bahati out of it.



RE: The conference and those involved. Don Schmierer&#039;s talk there had nothing to do with criminalization as far as I can determine. Brundidge provided confusing responses to questions about criminalization which served to encourage it. Lively was all about keeping homosexuality criminal. He then later supported some mythical second draft that does not exist. Others, like Accuracy in Media are currently providing moral support for the Bill&#039;s supporters. 



The bill would have happened without the Fellowship or the conference in my opinion. However, I do think the conference could have stopped it before it happened if the participants would not have gone, or would have urged them not to do it. 



That is a brief reaction. it is complex of course and the trend was there before last March.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eddy &#8211; I am always evaluating this but as of now, I think that the Fellowship core group in Uganda was blindsided by the bill but then was slow to react to it. Once Jeff Sharlet brought the relationship between Bahati and Buturo and the Fellowship out in the open, many Fellowship related people publicly opposed it and took some steps to talk Bahati out of it.</p>
<p>RE: The conference and those involved. Don Schmierer&#8217;s talk there had nothing to do with criminalization as far as I can determine. Brundidge provided confusing responses to questions about criminalization which served to encourage it. Lively was all about keeping homosexuality criminal. He then later supported some mythical second draft that does not exist. Others, like Accuracy in Media are currently providing moral support for the Bill&#8217;s supporters. </p>
<p>The bill would have happened without the Fellowship or the conference in my opinion. However, I do think the conference could have stopped it before it happened if the participants would not have gone, or would have urged them not to do it. </p>
<p>That is a brief reaction. it is complex of course and the trend was there before last March.</p>
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