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		By: logston		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[logston]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2010 23:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[is it not that god only judge&#039;s, and punishes



is it not that Mr. Fischer is god



is it not that their will be false gods]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is it not that god only judge&#8217;s, and punishes</p>
<p>is it not that Mr. Fischer is god</p>
<p>is it not that their will be false gods</p>
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		By: Eric		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 21:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Actually, Elisha is quite correct.  The Biblical punishment is indeed death.  



According to REAL Christians, however, Jesus already took that punishment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Elisha is quite correct.  The Biblical punishment is indeed death.  </p>
<p>According to REAL Christians, however, Jesus already took that punishment.</p>
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		By: Athanasian		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Athanasian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 18:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Martin Luther, initiator of the Protestant Reformation, teached to distinguish the Kingdom of God and the Kingdom of the world. One of the deepest mistakes of the church at his time was, in his opinion, to mix the two powers (or &quot;swords&quot;, as he says) confusingly. Spiritual actualities, he says, never can be pushed through by violence or law and order. The Bible must be understood according to its center, Jesus Christ, who said: &quot;My kingdom is not of this world&quot; (John 18, 36) and who forgave the adulteress instead of stoning her (John 8). According to the protestant (end evangelical) origins the words of Bryan Fisher (and of Elisha as well) simply demonstrates an alarming absence of theological education and insight. Christians could be victims of persecution, but never persecuers! Metanoeite! -]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin Luther, initiator of the Protestant Reformation, teached to distinguish the Kingdom of God and the Kingdom of the world. One of the deepest mistakes of the church at his time was, in his opinion, to mix the two powers (or &#8220;swords&#8221;, as he says) confusingly. Spiritual actualities, he says, never can be pushed through by violence or law and order. The Bible must be understood according to its center, Jesus Christ, who said: &#8220;My kingdom is not of this world&#8221; (John 18, 36) and who forgave the adulteress instead of stoning her (John 8). According to the protestant (end evangelical) origins the words of Bryan Fisher (and of Elisha as well) simply demonstrates an alarming absence of theological education and insight. Christians could be victims of persecution, but never persecuers! Metanoeite! &#8211;</p>
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		By: Michael Bussee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Bussee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 03:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I disagree with all of the above.  Maybe that means I&#039;m a &quot;faux Chrisian&quot; after all.  That&#039;s OK.  I think I prefer &quot;faux Christianity&quot; to the type many &quot;real Christians&quot; advocate.  Faux Christianity seems more, well, Christ-like.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with all of the above.  Maybe that means I&#8217;m a &#8220;faux Chrisian&#8221; after all.  That&#8217;s OK.  I think I prefer &#8220;faux Christianity&#8221; to the type many &#8220;real Christians&#8221; advocate.  Faux Christianity seems more, well, Christ-like.</p>
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		By: Elisha		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Elisha]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 21:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What a shame that Throckmorton and the commenters here have chosen to reject the Biblical standard of morality and law.  



Throckmorton asks:



&quot;I wonder what punishments Mr. Fischer would impose on the “unholy and profane?” How about liars? And the quite broad category of folks: Sinners?&quot;



You wouldn&#039;t have to wonder if you would read your Bible.  If there is a Biblically prescribed punishment such as death or banishment, then that is the punishment that should be meted out.  It is not your place to challenge God&#039;s assessment of the proper penalty.  If there is a sin for which there is no prescribed punishment, then we should do our prayerful best to impose a penalty based on an analogous sin for which there is a prescribed penalty.   



The New Testament&#039;s statements about love and forgiveness are not an escape hatch for sinners.  Forgiveness follows - and is not a substitute for -  repentance and punishment.  We can certainly forgive homosexuals who repent of their abominable sin, but only after they are executed.



Look for many if not most sins, the Biblical punishment is death.  To put it bluntly, the Bible is a book that advocates the execution of many, many people.  That is the reality that Throckmorton and the other faux Christians on this site cannot accept.  You deny it or dance around it or try to rewrite it withtry to argue that the New Testament lets you off the hook.  But you can&#039;t deny the words on the page.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a shame that Throckmorton and the commenters here have chosen to reject the Biblical standard of morality and law.  </p>
<p>Throckmorton asks:</p>
<p>&#8220;I wonder what punishments Mr. Fischer would impose on the “unholy and profane?” How about liars? And the quite broad category of folks: Sinners?&#8221;</p>
<p>You wouldn&#8217;t have to wonder if you would read your Bible.  If there is a Biblically prescribed punishment such as death or banishment, then that is the punishment that should be meted out.  It is not your place to challenge God&#8217;s assessment of the proper penalty.  If there is a sin for which there is no prescribed punishment, then we should do our prayerful best to impose a penalty based on an analogous sin for which there is a prescribed penalty.   </p>
<p>The New Testament&#8217;s statements about love and forgiveness are not an escape hatch for sinners.  Forgiveness follows &#8211; and is not a substitute for &#8211;  repentance and punishment.  We can certainly forgive homosexuals who repent of their abominable sin, but only after they are executed.</p>
<p>Look for many if not most sins, the Biblical punishment is death.  To put it bluntly, the Bible is a book that advocates the execution of many, many people.  That is the reality that Throckmorton and the other faux Christians on this site cannot accept.  You deny it or dance around it or try to rewrite it withtry to argue that the New Testament lets you off the hook.  But you can&#8217;t deny the words on the page.</p>
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		By: Fg68at		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fg68at]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 20:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[O, it was only satire in the blog. So it seems now. Sorry. It read to real, it would fully apply the statements of NARTH and Christl Ruth Vonholdt.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O, it was only satire in the blog. So it seems now. Sorry. It read to real, it would fully apply the statements of NARTH and Christl Ruth Vonholdt.</p>
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		By: Fg68at		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fg68at]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[At the same time say Ilse Aigner,  head of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Ministry_of_Food,_Agriculture_and_Consumer_Protection_(Germany)&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Federal Ministry of Food, Agriculture and Consumer Protection (Germany)&lt;/a&gt;, suggest people with same sex attraction, which she surly meet with high respect, should try a reorientation of the sexual orientation, because it is proven, that a homosexual lifestyle has enhanced dangers for the health. (Only in the Print-Version and &lt;a href=&quot;http://gaywest.wordpress.com/2010/01/31/bin-laden-schwule-schuld-an-klimaerwarmung/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;one Blog &lt;/a&gt;, not in the press report of the paper, there is only &quot;i wouls like no candys at the at the checkout in the supermarket, i would like fruit there&quot;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the same time say Ilse Aigner,  head of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Ministry_of_Food,_Agriculture_and_Consumer_Protection_(Germany)" rel="nofollow">Federal Ministry of Food, Agriculture and Consumer Protection (Germany)</a>, suggest people with same sex attraction, which she surly meet with high respect, should try a reorientation of the sexual orientation, because it is proven, that a homosexual lifestyle has enhanced dangers for the health. (Only in the Print-Version and <a href="http://gaywest.wordpress.com/2010/01/31/bin-laden-schwule-schuld-an-klimaerwarmung/" rel="nofollow">one Blog </a>, not in the press report of the paper, there is only &#8220;i wouls like no candys at the at the checkout in the supermarket, i would like fruit there&#8221;)</p>
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		By: Mary		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 16:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;A child in Sunday school would not likely make that mistake. Is the barrel really that empty over there?&lt;/blockquote&gt;



So true.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>A child in Sunday school would not likely make that mistake. Is the barrel really that empty over there?</p></blockquote>
<p>So true.</p>
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		By: Lynn David		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynn David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 07:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just remembered who Fischer was/is.   The one man AFA of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.idahovaluesalliance.com/fischer.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Idaho Values Alliance&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Bryan Fischer has an undergraduate degree in philosophy from Stanford University, and a graduate degree in theology from Dallas Theological Seminary. He served on the staff of Cole Community Church in Boise, where he founded the Cole Center for Biblical Studies and served as its director for 13 years. He then founded Community Church of the Valley, where he served as senior pastor for 12 years.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

It would seem he has the Christian cred&#039;s.  I thought he left the IVA to have that program with the AFA.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just remembered who Fischer was/is.   The one man AFA of the <a href="http://www.idahovaluesalliance.com/fischer.asp" rel="nofollow">Idaho Values Alliance</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>Bryan Fischer has an undergraduate degree in philosophy from Stanford University, and a graduate degree in theology from Dallas Theological Seminary. He served on the staff of Cole Community Church in Boise, where he founded the Cole Center for Biblical Studies and served as its director for 13 years. He then founded Community Church of the Valley, where he served as senior pastor for 12 years.</p></blockquote>
<p>It would seem he has the Christian cred&#8217;s.  I thought he left the IVA to have that program with the AFA.</p>
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		By: David Roberts		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Roberts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 06:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A child in Sunday school would not likely make that mistake.  Is the barrel really that empty over there?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A child in Sunday school would not likely make that mistake.  Is the barrel really that empty over there?</p>
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