Comments on: Scott Lively: Anti-Homosexuality Bill is “step in the right direction”

By: Jayhuck

Jayhuck — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 02:03:13 +0000

David –

I just saw this post – he’s been busy applying to graduate schools – he did not seem to care about responding tonight but I’ll see if I can get him interested in participating again 😉

By: David Blakeslee

David Blakeslee — Fri, 22 Jan 2010 15:02:03 +0000

@ Jayhuck,

welcome back…

Did Ryan have any other comments about the postings I had made?

By: Eddy

Eddy — Fri, 22 Jan 2010 14:23:16 +0000

It’s okay…we understand your addiction to the soap box. I was surprised at the several days of silence!

By: Jayhuck

Jayhuck — Fri, 22 Jan 2010 06:18:27 +0000

My apologies – I said I was going to get off this soapbox and I did not!

By: Jayhuck

Jayhuck — Fri, 22 Jan 2010 06:12:08 +0000

The real virtue is in finding ways to coexist not to keep bashing each other because we believe differently.

Believing is one thing, using those beliefs to tread on the rights of others is something else entirely. As long as the other party is not attempting to treat me as less than equal, then there is virtue in finding ways to coexist!

You and I definitely disagree on the sole source Michael. I think conservative religious views are definitely that.

By: Michael Bussee

Michael Bussee — Fri, 22 Jan 2010 04:55:32 +0000

The real virtue is in finding ways to coexist not to keep bashing each other because we believe differently.

Agreed.

By: Michael Bussee

Michael Bussee — Fri, 22 Jan 2010 04:53:28 +0000

I think it is an over-statement to claim that “the sole source of antigay sentiment is conservative Christianity”. ONE source, yes. SOLE source, no.

By: Jayhuck

Jayhuck — Fri, 22 Jan 2010 02:52:17 +0000

David,

It is easier, when the pain is the worst, with our spouses and friends who have hurt us to demonize them…harder to accept how much it hurts and make decisions about the kind of contact we can tolerate.

Usually, when our spouses and friends hurt us, it is done unintentionally – and regardless of why it is done, if the people love us, they don’t do it again!

Want to hold the belief that homosexuality is a sin? Have at it! Just don’t use your religious beliefs to deny me a civil right.

By: David Blakeslee

David Blakeslee — Sat, 16 Jan 2010 20:58:59 +0000

@ Warren,

After what I have been through, I could easily say that gays are the number one source of anti-religous bias in the culture. But that would be pointless. One because it is only my experience and two because such generalization obscure the exceptions. Let’s call it as it is: confirmation bias.

True that.

@ Jayhuck

I find it nearly impossible to coexist with people who would deny me equal rights – that is the real problem here.

That is about as frank as it gets…Jayhuck, I really appreciate your participation here and I have sensed for some time (since the California reversal) that the tenor and tone has changed. I wish you well and hope you will stick around.

It is easier, when the pain is the worst, with our spouses and friends who have hurt us to demonize them…harder to accept how much it hurts and make decisions about the kind of contact we can tolerate.

Regardless of what you decide I have appreciated you and wish you and Ryan well.

By: Jayhuck

Jayhuck — Sat, 16 Jan 2010 17:52:39 +0000

Two words Eddy: Primary source

I’ll refrain from furthering this detour as well