Comments on: Joyce Meyer Ministries declines to comment on Uganda’s Anti-Homosexuality Bill 2009

By: Richard Willmer

Richard Willmer — Mon, 21 Nov 2011 12:57:37 +0000

Yes, Lynn, it is, and some US politicians are still peddling this kind of nonsense.

But it is, as far as I can see, also the case that the ‘recruitment’ line now seems less evident in Ugandan dialectic.

By: Lynn David

Lynn David — Mon, 21 Nov 2011 09:19:54 +0000

Richard... It stilll is used these days. Back in 2004/2005 my own state senator here in Indiana produced a pamphlet in which he said:

[That] the “ultimate goal” of this homosexual agenda “involves the enlistment of our children. Because they can’t reproduce, homosexuals have to recruit! We must continue to fight back in order to preserve our children’s innocence.”

By: Isaac

Isaac — Mon, 21 Nov 2011 08:08:38 +0000

Francis

Oh dear! I thought we Ugandans were so past that recruitment idea, no one recruited me into heterosexuality, did anyone recruit you?

By: Richard Willmer

Richard Willmer — Mon, 21 Nov 2011 07:54:21 +0000

Well, at least Francis opposes the Bill.

Have you noticed, Lynn, how the ‘recruitment’ propaganda line is not used so much these days? People like Ssempa tried it, of course, but his efforts went ‘pear-shaped’ when one of the alleged ‘recruitees’ told the New York Times that he had been paid to say that he had been ‘recruited’.

Ssempa (a strong, athletic man, especially in his youth) tried a different line at MUK on Saturday when he claimed he had been ‘attacked by a homosexual’: http://www.monitor.co.ug/Magazines/Life/-/689856/1275756/-/bqlela/-/index.html

Hmmmmm.

By: Lynn David

Lynn David — Mon, 21 Nov 2011 03:39:19 +0000

Francis.... Much as I disagree with the bill esp with the punishment it proposes, I also disagree with the recruiting technique used by gay people.

No one is recruiting anyone by any means. That's an old wives' tale used by people to denounce gay people.

This whole thing of telling kids to try the act, just to find out if they were born that way ain’t right.

No one is doing this in the least.

The whole act by the American and British gays of empwering their converts financially leaves these kids at the risk of these moguls and only their morals to save them.

No one is converting or even seeking to convert anyone. Any financial aid is to groups who seek to have their rights as human beings upheld, to seek in liberty their own path in their life to happiness,

Wish all the gays subscribed to this well….Perharps thats the way you were born… I dont know coz I am not God

I wish people such as yourself would quit subscribing to the lies that gays recruit.

By: Francis

Francis — Sun, 20 Nov 2011 20:40:01 +0000

Much as I disagree with the bill esp with the punishment it proposes, I also disagree with the recruiting technique used by gay people. This whole thing of telling kids to try the act, just to find out if they were born that way ain’t right. The whole act by the American and British gays of empwering their converts financially leaves these kids at the risk of these moguls and only their morals to save them. unfortunately, at this time very few of them can distinguish wat is right from what is wrong, and when they finally have to face the reality that they enjoy an act they were introduced to….they come up with this thing that that’s how I was born….A sheer denial of responsibility…. Can we leave the preachers alone and face up to ourselves if you were born gay, why recruit? why not wait for the Force that created you gay to create more gay people……Preachers are paid to preach and if they preach….they are being accountable to the people that tithe.

Wish all the gays subscribed to this well….Perharps thats the way you were born… I dont know coz I am not God

By: icearc

icearc — Thu, 08 Apr 2010 12:32:16 +0000

Joyce Meyer, Creflo Dollar , T.D Jakes et al are huge here in Uganda amongst Christian folk as a result of free TBN programming on a local terrestrial TV station here. They have a pretty good following among Christians, there influence can not be over-estimated. If they do speak directly on this issue, it will most certainly make a big impact. Personally I heard of Rick Warren, Scot Lively and Exodus only recently via their connection with the AHB, their influence is pretty limited. As for Stephen Langa one has to be careful in generalising his views to his parent church and fellow pastors working there. Kampala Pentecostal Church after all has many liberal christians in its following. The silence of head pastor, Garry Skinner and fellow pastors at KPC is deafening, they haven’t come out openly and endorsed Langa’s stance. Furthermore, Langa himself has become silent of late. Pastor Ssempa has been the lone steadfast campaigner in this save for a one Pastor Male.

By: Eddy

Eddy — Thu, 08 Apr 2010 11:43:51 +0000

David–

While I agree with most of your post, I take exception to “People don’t turn gay, people are born gay.” From my understanding, the notion that people are born gay is still an unproven theory and should not be spoken as a fact.

By: David

David — Thu, 08 Apr 2010 04:37:41 +0000

Debbie, some of those orphans that you are referring to are gay. People don’t turn gay, people are born gay. Are human lives more precious when they are young? I have been to third world countries and I am very aware of the conditions. I have dedicated my life to helping those who are HIV positive. We can’t ignore one group of people to help another. Jesus loves everyone and regardless of your opinion and judgements we are told that we must also love our neighbor. Do Christians not have compassion for people anymore? Whatever happened to praying for individuals and acting in their behalf despite judgements?

By: Terry Roberts

Terry Roberts — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 15:26:11 +0000

Before we throw the baby out with the bath water. Some countries still don’t let women walk in front of men. Some can’t vote. Some are still traded like stocks.

My bible tells me ALL have fallen short. The good being done by Joyce Meyer Ministries certainly is beyond what any one of us could accomplish individually.

Gay or Strait. Catholics have learned about hypocrisy and attitude in the church.

I believe Joyce teaches a positive attitude about life with the bible as support. She builds up not tear down. I don’t think I will be judge by Joyce Meyer at the end of my life.