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	Comments on: AFP: Ugandan President Museveni opposes the Anti-Homosexuality Bill	</title>
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		By: Mary		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 19:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Many people who speak and write present day english still misinterpret what is being communicated.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many people who speak and write present day english still misinterpret what is being communicated.</p>
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		By: Lynn David		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2009/12/19/afp-ugandan-president-museveni-opposes-the-anti-homosexuality-bill/#comment-36205</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynn David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 08:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, obviously I have read the passages and looked through Strongs concerning the Hebrew.  I figured that conversing with someone who has studied ancient Hebrew would exactly be personal research - or &#039;interpersonal&#039; research.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, obviously I have read the passages and looked through Strongs concerning the Hebrew.  I figured that conversing with someone who has studied ancient Hebrew would exactly be personal research &#8211; or &#8216;interpersonal&#8217; research.</p>
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		By: Mary		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 06:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sorry - but this needs personal research.  Going on someone else&#039;s interpretation means nothing to me anymore.  Too many cooks in the kitchen who are trying to manipulate what you are fed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry &#8211; but this needs personal research.  Going on someone else&#8217;s interpretation means nothing to me anymore.  Too many cooks in the kitchen who are trying to manipulate what you are fed.</p>
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		By: Lynn David		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2009/12/19/afp-ugandan-president-museveni-opposes-the-anti-homosexuality-bill/#comment-36203</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynn David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 06:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Me?   It comes from a  student of Greek and Hebrew once told me.   I suppose then that I am going on what the Israelites considered it said.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me?   It comes from a  student of Greek and Hebrew once told me.   I suppose then that I am going on what the Israelites considered it said.</p>
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		By: Mary		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 03:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m tempted to use Jesus&#039; new convenant as my standard.  And still I interpret the OT differently than you.  Thou = in what context?  Really, I don&#039;t have the background to interpret the original langauge but I have concerns that it has been skewed over the years and we have lost sight of something.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m tempted to use Jesus&#8217; new convenant as my standard.  And still I interpret the OT differently than you.  Thou = in what context?  Really, I don&#8217;t have the background to interpret the original langauge but I have concerns that it has been skewed over the years and we have lost sight of something.</p>
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		By: Lynn David		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2009/12/19/afp-ugandan-president-museveni-opposes-the-anti-homosexuality-bill/#comment-36201</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynn David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 02:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Mary..... &lt;/strong&gt;I still see your perspective as an interpretation of who should do the killing. Perhaps, we are to leave that killing up to God himself. Leave the individual alone and let God handle the situation.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh, I&#039;m all for that.   And yet three verses down from 20:13 [&lt;em&gt;If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood [shall be] upon them&lt;/em&gt;.] we find:

&lt;blockquote&gt;And if a woman approach unto any beast, and lie down thereto, &lt;strong&gt;thou shalt kill the woman, and the beast&lt;/strong&gt;: they shall surely be put to death; their blood [shall be] upon them.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Which is quite clear about the temporal death sentence.  

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I understand why you should choose to interpret the meaning as a spiritual death left only to your god.   A god should not change its mind if the system of morality it represents is absolute.  Certainly the Israelites did carry out such judgments, one which Jesus is said to have stopped.  Certainly too, people have modified their viewpoint on capital punishments over the years, especially for sexual trangressions.    But has the god done so?   Not if it is still a god.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><strong>Mary&#8230;.. </strong>I still see your perspective as an interpretation of who should do the killing. Perhaps, we are to leave that killing up to God himself. Leave the individual alone and let God handle the situation.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, I&#8217;m all for that.   And yet three verses down from 20:13 [<em>If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood [shall be] upon them</em>.] we find:</p>
<blockquote><p>And if a woman approach unto any beast, and lie down thereto, <strong>thou shalt kill the woman, and the beast</strong>: they shall surely be put to death; their blood [shall be] upon them.</p></blockquote>
<p>Which is quite clear about the temporal death sentence.  </p>
<p>.</p>
<p>I understand why you should choose to interpret the meaning as a spiritual death left only to your god.   A god should not change its mind if the system of morality it represents is absolute.  Certainly the Israelites did carry out such judgments, one which Jesus is said to have stopped.  Certainly too, people have modified their viewpoint on capital punishments over the years, especially for sexual trangressions.    But has the god done so?   Not if it is still a god.</p>
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		By: Mary		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 18:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lynn,



I still see your perspective as an interpretation of who should do the killing.  Perhaps, we are to leave that killing up to God himself.  Leave the individual alone and let God handle the situation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lynn,</p>
<p>I still see your perspective as an interpretation of who should do the killing.  Perhaps, we are to leave that killing up to God himself.  Leave the individual alone and let God handle the situation.</p>
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		By: kaaront		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kaaront]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 12:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On president Museveni vetoing or blocking the bill is a dream that may unfortunately or fortunately for many Ugandans not come to pass.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On president Museveni vetoing or blocking the bill is a dream that may unfortunately or fortunately for many Ugandans not come to pass.</p>
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		By: David Blakeslee		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2009/12/19/afp-ugandan-president-museveni-opposes-the-anti-homosexuality-bill/#comment-36198</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Blakeslee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 15:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A hopeful development...



Democracies have ways of protecting themselves against the Horde  (WOW allusion).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A hopeful development&#8230;</p>
<p>Democracies have ways of protecting themselves against the Horde  (WOW allusion).</p>
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		By: Lynn David		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2009/12/19/afp-ugandan-president-museveni-opposes-the-anti-homosexuality-bill/#comment-36197</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynn David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 08:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just telling Mary how it was written, Michael.   It was meant that a person should be judged and die at the hand off his Israelite peers.   But it is also true that Jews consider that Gentiles should not adhere to the Mosaic law.  Instead everyone else is supposed to keep to the Noachide laws.   But that also includes adultery/fornication.   Of course, that presupposes that we&#039;re all descendants of Noah, which I do not in the least believe to be truthful.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just telling Mary how it was written, Michael.   It was meant that a person should be judged and die at the hand off his Israelite peers.   But it is also true that Jews consider that Gentiles should not adhere to the Mosaic law.  Instead everyone else is supposed to keep to the Noachide laws.   But that also includes adultery/fornication.   Of course, that presupposes that we&#8217;re all descendants of Noah, which I do not in the least believe to be truthful.</p>
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