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	Comments on: College of Prayer, the Ugandan Parliament and the Anti-Homosexuality Bill	</title>
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		By: Warren		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lynn David said:



&lt;blockquote&gt;However, religious figures who are hard-line supports of the bill, such as Oyet, Ssempa &#038; others, do receive support for many other aspects of their ministries not at all related to or intended for the oppression of gays and lesbians and yet that benign support most assuredly allows them to continue their more sinister endeavors of oppression. And that has been the very point of many of the posts by Dr Throckmorton.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Well said.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lynn David said:</p>
<blockquote><p>However, religious figures who are hard-line supports of the bill, such as Oyet, Ssempa &amp; others, do receive support for many other aspects of their ministries not at all related to or intended for the oppression of gays and lesbians and yet that benign support most assuredly allows them to continue their more sinister endeavors of oppression. And that has been the very point of many of the posts by Dr Throckmorton.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well said.</p>
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		By: Lynn David		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynn David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 04:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Maazi.... &lt;/strong&gt;I am sure that &lt;strong&gt;Kampala-based pro-gay puppet  advocacy groups receive money from their foreign sponsors which is probably 20 times more than the amount  gifted to the evangelicals by their own foreign friends.&lt;/strong&gt; Pro-gay puppet advocates even have the support of  key Western governments and a bevy of compromised international agencies.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Prove it.   Gays the world over may have the support of several GLBT organizations in the west, but I very much doubt the monetary support is anywhere near the monetary contribuations by mainline, evangelical or pentacostal religious sects.   Your gay-money meme is most likely a made-up factoid of the local anti-gays.    

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I know I have never donated any monies to any gay organization which listed any overseas organization as a receiver of their aid in their financial statements.  I have however given to Catholic organizations which support the building of schools &#038; hospitals, aiding agriculture and digging water wells in African countries with Catholic populations.  

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Now I suspect that most funds to the religious are given to mostly support agriculture, and building schools, hospitals, and churches.   Religious aid organizations in the Americas, Australia and Europe generally don&#039;t hand out money to oppress or imprison people concerning their freedom of speech or their love interests and that includes gays and lesbians.   Even the ministry Exodus International which deals in helping gays and lesbians live in accord with Biblical traditions does not support laws denying free speech or imprisoning gays for their sexuality as the Bahati bill does.   But then so also, neither does the Roman Catholic Church. 

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However, religious figures who are hard-line supports of the bill, such as Oyet, Ssempa &#038; others, do receive support for many other aspects of their ministries not at all related to or intended for the oppression of gays and lesbians and yet that benign support most assuredly allows them to continue their more sinister endeavors of oppression.   And that has been the very point of many of the posts by Dr Throckmorton.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><strong>Maazi&#8230;. </strong>I am sure that <strong>Kampala-based pro-gay puppet  advocacy groups receive money from their foreign sponsors which is probably 20 times more than the amount  gifted to the evangelicals by their own foreign friends.</strong> Pro-gay puppet advocates even have the support of  key Western governments and a bevy of compromised international agencies.</p></blockquote>
<p>Prove it.   Gays the world over may have the support of several GLBT organizations in the west, but I very much doubt the monetary support is anywhere near the monetary contribuations by mainline, evangelical or pentacostal religious sects.   Your gay-money meme is most likely a made-up factoid of the local anti-gays.    </p>
<p>.</p>
<p>I know I have never donated any monies to any gay organization which listed any overseas organization as a receiver of their aid in their financial statements.  I have however given to Catholic organizations which support the building of schools &amp; hospitals, aiding agriculture and digging water wells in African countries with Catholic populations.  </p>
<p>.</p>
<p>Now I suspect that most funds to the religious are given to mostly support agriculture, and building schools, hospitals, and churches.   Religious aid organizations in the Americas, Australia and Europe generally don&#8217;t hand out money to oppress or imprison people concerning their freedom of speech or their love interests and that includes gays and lesbians.   Even the ministry Exodus International which deals in helping gays and lesbians live in accord with Biblical traditions does not support laws denying free speech or imprisoning gays for their sexuality as the Bahati bill does.   But then so also, neither does the Roman Catholic Church. </p>
<p>.</p>
<p>However, religious figures who are hard-line supports of the bill, such as Oyet, Ssempa &amp; others, do receive support for many other aspects of their ministries not at all related to or intended for the oppression of gays and lesbians and yet that benign support most assuredly allows them to continue their more sinister endeavors of oppression.   And that has been the very point of many of the posts by Dr Throckmorton.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
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		By: Maazi NCO		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maazi NCO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 18:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;I guess I cant stop getting angry at all this.I mean, didnt know how perverse the influence was. Didnt know how deep it all went. But, it is a matter of fact that this is all too believable. These things do happen in Uganda.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Mr Gay Uganda,



Please stop expressing fake indignation. I am sure that Kampala-based pro-gay puppet  advocacy groups receive money from their foreign sponsors which is probably 20 times more than the amount  gifted to the evangelicals by their own foreign friends. Pro-gay puppet advocates even have the support of  key Western governments and a bevy of compromised international agencies. So your own side of the gay struggle is even better equipped materially to fight the anti-gay side. You know as well as I do that even if outsiders were not involved in supporting or opposing gayism, it will still be strongly resisted by the Ugandan people (and by extension, most Africans). This is the reason that the less materially endowed anti-gay side will win eventually. I am not even an evangelical, but I strongly identify with popular wish to remove your poisonous ideology from the limited public space that it currently occupies. Please enjoy the spotlight while it lasts. I hope your friends in the Euro-American Gay Lobby are preparing a nice pad for you in San Francisco because you may need it in the future. Enough said for now...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I guess I cant stop getting angry at all this.I mean, didnt know how perverse the influence was. Didnt know how deep it all went. But, it is a matter of fact that this is all too believable. These things do happen in Uganda.</p></blockquote>
<p>Mr Gay Uganda,</p>
<p>Please stop expressing fake indignation. I am sure that Kampala-based pro-gay puppet  advocacy groups receive money from their foreign sponsors which is probably 20 times more than the amount  gifted to the evangelicals by their own foreign friends. Pro-gay puppet advocates even have the support of  key Western governments and a bevy of compromised international agencies. So your own side of the gay struggle is even better equipped materially to fight the anti-gay side. You know as well as I do that even if outsiders were not involved in supporting or opposing gayism, it will still be strongly resisted by the Ugandan people (and by extension, most Africans). This is the reason that the less materially endowed anti-gay side will win eventually. I am not even an evangelical, but I strongly identify with popular wish to remove your poisonous ideology from the limited public space that it currently occupies. Please enjoy the spotlight while it lasts. I hope your friends in the Euro-American Gay Lobby are preparing a nice pad for you in San Francisco because you may need it in the future. Enough said for now&#8230;</p>
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		By: ricci		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 11:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What is wrong with &quot;fighting AIDS&quot; in Uganda and the medicalisation of poverty?



Shocking un-cut footage from Brent Leung&#039;s documentary &quot;House of Numbers&quot; reveals truth about AIDS as told by Dr. Luc Montagnier. AIDS can be reversed. Nutrition is the answer. Hear it straight from the co-discoverer of &quot;HIV&quot;. 



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQoNW7lOnT4]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is wrong with &#8220;fighting AIDS&#8221; in Uganda and the medicalisation of poverty?</p>
<p>Shocking un-cut footage from Brent Leung&#8217;s documentary &#8220;House of Numbers&#8221; reveals truth about AIDS as told by Dr. Luc Montagnier. AIDS can be reversed. Nutrition is the answer. Hear it straight from the co-discoverer of &#8220;HIV&#8221;. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQoNW7lOnT4" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQoNW7lOnT4</a></p>
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		By: Zoe Brain		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zoe Brain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 04:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You mean that fanatically anti-gay people &lt;strong&gt;lie&lt;/strong&gt;? Who would ever have thought it?



Warren, you&#039;ve come a long way. You&#039;ve maintained your integrity. Some who in the past you have &quot;hung out&quot; with professionally, and with excellent reasons for doing that, never had any to begin with. I know that you know that now, but I think that you still would like to disbelieve the scale of the problem. I know I&#039;d like to disbelieve it too, I have an irrational faith that most people, even those I most disagree with, are genuinely trying to do the right thing as they see it. But sometimes the evidence that they&#039;re not is overwhelming.



The rabid homophobia comes first: they then use whatever reasoning is most convenient, be it religious or otherwise, to justify that. That means twisting Christian teaching into pretzels at times. But because they&#039;re seen as &quot;christian&quot;, they get support from the genuine variety, some of whom should know better. I don&#039;t mean you, I mean many in various established churches.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean that fanatically anti-gay people <strong>lie</strong>? Who would ever have thought it?</p>
<p>Warren, you&#8217;ve come a long way. You&#8217;ve maintained your integrity. Some who in the past you have &#8220;hung out&#8221; with professionally, and with excellent reasons for doing that, never had any to begin with. I know that you know that now, but I think that you still would like to disbelieve the scale of the problem. I know I&#8217;d like to disbelieve it too, I have an irrational faith that most people, even those I most disagree with, are genuinely trying to do the right thing as they see it. But sometimes the evidence that they&#8217;re not is overwhelming.</p>
<p>The rabid homophobia comes first: they then use whatever reasoning is most convenient, be it religious or otherwise, to justify that. That means twisting Christian teaching into pretzels at times. But because they&#8217;re seen as &#8220;christian&#8221;, they get support from the genuine variety, some of whom should know better. I don&#8217;t mean you, I mean many in various established churches.</p>
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