Comments on: Ugandan news source reports on Anti-Homosexuality Bill opposition

By: Eddy

Eddy — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:56:11 +0000

Will you be rewriting our Bibles for us? Or are you suggesting we throw them out? The first part of the list is words and phrases that you rarely, if ever, hear from the regular conservative bloggers here but they do come from the Bible.

I’ll grant that many Christians have misused words like ‘abomination’…forgetting that the Bible also calls ‘lying lips’ an ‘abomination’.

I’ve always been troubled by passages in Leviticus that said ‘shall surely be put to death’ and was glad that the death penalty was borne by Jesus Christ.

I’ve heard a number of arguments that suggest that homosexuality was a misinterpretation in 1 Corinthians but never a suggestion that ‘will not inherit the kingdom of God’ was a misinterpretation. Is it okay if we still believe that idolators and adulterers won’t inherit?

“Evil”–a word like ‘abomination’ that can sound charged if we don’t apply it across the board. Compared to God’s holiness, ALL of our selfish ways are ‘evil’.

“Damaged. Broken.”–yeah, bad word choices. Originally intended to convey an understanding that your sin wasn’t entirely your fault. We should have stuck with ‘sinful’.

“Sinful”–back to that list in Corinthians. Can we call anything ‘sinful’?

“Gay Agenda”–depending on the topic, people will actually admit there is one! I believe it was LynnDavid who made a comment a week or so ago about changes in the gay community where plurality of partners was being played down and monogamy was being talked up. Some of the reasons: acceptance and legal rights. Shh….it’s got directives, group talk, history, and goals…just don’t call it an ‘agenda’.

By: Michael Bussee

Michael Bussee — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:53:29 +0000

What we say here echoes in Uganda.

Abomination. Shall surely be put to death. Will not inherit the kingdom of God. Evil. Damaged. Broken. SInful. Gay agenda. Danger to children. Destroying the family. Bigger threat than terrorism…

(echo, echo, echo….)

By: Lynn David

Lynn David — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 04:41:50 +0000

This MP from Uganda even proffers the same time-worn phrases about gays that my states senator in Indiana has, like: "homosexuals cannot reproduce. They must recruit..." Maybe she read his circular to the voters. . See: Neo-colonialism fuels homosexuality in Africa . The title tells it all and speaks to why efforts even among Christians are likely to be rebuffed.

By: Lynn David

Lynn David — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 04:18:15 +0000

Interesting article on UgPulse.com concerning Pentacostal churches in Uganda: Pentecostal movement riddled with scandals: Will Caesar bring sanity to God's temple? . Concerning the article on the Facebook group, I find it somewhat disconcerting that they somewhat buried it on their "Health" pages. And you can always tell on UgPulse what they really want to get across by an article, it is always in the last paragraph:

But the Minister of Ethics and Integrity, Dr. James Nsaba Buturo insists that the government has a duty to introduce and enforce laws against acts of homosexuality or same sex relationships which he says are immoral and against the order of nature.

By: Michael Bussee

Michael Bussee — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:01:09 +0000

In any event, frustrations aside for the moment:

It is encouraging and inspiring to see gays, ex-gays, ex-ex-gays, bi-sexuals, straights — people from very divserse religious and cultural backgrounds — to work together towards something that really matters — not just for folks with “SSA”, but for everyone one His children.

As Warren describes such cooperation: “rare, but cool!”🙂