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	Comments on: Ugandan travelogue from Caleb Brundidge and the International Healing Foundation	</title>
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		By: Michael Bussee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Bussee]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know.  I will call the Presbyterian Church USA today to check.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know.  I will call the Presbyterian Church USA today to check.</p>
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		By: Debbie Thurman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Debbie Thurman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Does anyone now how major denominations here in the USA are responding? LDS? Lutheran? Baptist? I will look into the Presbyterian response.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Do they even know?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Does anyone now how major denominations here in the USA are responding? LDS? Lutheran? Baptist? I will look into the Presbyterian response.</p></blockquote>
<p>Do they even know?</p>
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		By: Michael Bussee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Bussee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s how Warren explained it: &lt;blockquote&gt; &quot;...American Christians may have inadvertantly contributed to the situation which led to a proposed law called the Anti-Homosexuality Bill 2009 being introduced in the Ugandan parliament.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The other American who spoke in Kampala, Don Schmierer, is a board member with Exodus International, the leading Christian ministry which helps same-sex attracted people affirm traditional Christian doctrine regarding homosexual behavior. However, just yesterday, Exodus International denounced the legislation as &quot;horrible legislation&quot; and &quot;hateful public policy.&quot; Critics of Exodus complain that the organization should have denounced the original trip to Uganda.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Warren seems to understand.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s how Warren explained it: </p>
<blockquote><p> &#8220;&#8230;American Christians may have inadvertantly contributed to the situation which led to a proposed law called the Anti-Homosexuality Bill 2009 being introduced in the Ugandan parliament.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>The other American who spoke in Kampala, Don Schmierer, is a board member with Exodus International, the leading Christian ministry which helps same-sex attracted people affirm traditional Christian doctrine regarding homosexual behavior. However, just yesterday, Exodus International denounced the legislation as &#8220;horrible legislation&#8221; and &#8220;hateful public policy.&#8221; Critics of Exodus complain that the organization should have denounced the original trip to Uganda.</p></blockquote>
<p>Warren seems to understand.</p>
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		By: Michael Bussee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Bussee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Exodus did not endorse the visit.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I simply don&#039;t believe this.  They knew in advance and praised his going.  He may have paid his own way and may not have gone on &quot;official Exodus business&quot; but he went with their blessing.

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Michael – I kind of agree with David. You are taking every bad thing that happens to gays and turning it on EXODUS. No doubt you have been hurt by the organization. But it seems you have misplaced some anger&lt;/blockquote&gt;Mary, I have not been hurt by Exodus.  Exodus has done nothing to hurt me.  I hurt people by helping to create Exodus in the first place.  It&#039;s regret, not anger.  



Exodus played a role -- perhaps an indirect one -- but they are connected to it.  Gays didn&#039;t &quot;weld&quot; Exodus to it.  Exodus voluntarily attached itself to it-- and then seemed reluctant to speak out.  I have have made an annoying number of posts, but I wasn&#039;t the only one on the blog encouraging Exodus to denounce this clearly and officially.



Now, they have spoken and I am grateful, not angry.  The statement from Exodus may help make the situation better by encouraging other Christian organizations to take a stand.



Does anyone now how major denominations here in the USA are responding?  LDS?  Lutheran?  Baptist?  I will look into the Presbyterian response.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Exodus did not endorse the visit.</p></blockquote>
<p>I simply don&#8217;t believe this.  They knew in advance and praised his going.  He may have paid his own way and may not have gone on &#8220;official Exodus business&#8221; but he went with their blessing.</p>
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<p>Michael – I kind of agree with David. You are taking every bad thing that happens to gays and turning it on EXODUS. No doubt you have been hurt by the organization. But it seems you have misplaced some anger</p></blockquote>
<p>Mary, I have not been hurt by Exodus.  Exodus has done nothing to hurt me.  I hurt people by helping to create Exodus in the first place.  It&#8217;s regret, not anger.  </p>
<p>Exodus played a role &#8212; perhaps an indirect one &#8212; but they are connected to it.  Gays didn&#8217;t &#8220;weld&#8221; Exodus to it.  Exodus voluntarily attached itself to it&#8211; and then seemed reluctant to speak out.  I have have made an annoying number of posts, but I wasn&#8217;t the only one on the blog encouraging Exodus to denounce this clearly and officially.</p>
<p>Now, they have spoken and I am grateful, not angry.  The statement from Exodus may help make the situation better by encouraging other Christian organizations to take a stand.</p>
<p>Does anyone now how major denominations here in the USA are responding?  LDS?  Lutheran?  Baptist?  I will look into the Presbyterian response.</p>
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		By: David Blakeslee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Blakeslee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Michael,



I don&#039;t feel sad about my commentary...and I won&#039;t be distracted from Jennings&#039; use of bad science in the name of promoting anti-bulling (euphemism, since his work has almost entirely been in the GLBT community).



Uganda is a longstanding outrage...recently facilitated directly by Lively&#039;s lies and FLN support.



Exodus did not endorse the visit.



A board member attended to talk about working with ex-gays.



When Exodus understood the implications of such a visit they separated themselves from Lively (like Cameron and others).



They have now released a public statement condemning the Ugandan laws.



BTB and others seek to weld the Ugandan legislative mess to Exodus, when the obvious villain is elsewhere...why?



Still waiting on Jennings....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t feel sad about my commentary&#8230;and I won&#8217;t be distracted from Jennings&#8217; use of bad science in the name of promoting anti-bulling (euphemism, since his work has almost entirely been in the GLBT community).</p>
<p>Uganda is a longstanding outrage&#8230;recently facilitated directly by Lively&#8217;s lies and FLN support.</p>
<p>Exodus did not endorse the visit.</p>
<p>A board member attended to talk about working with ex-gays.</p>
<p>When Exodus understood the implications of such a visit they separated themselves from Lively (like Cameron and others).</p>
<p>They have now released a public statement condemning the Ugandan laws.</p>
<p>BTB and others seek to weld the Ugandan legislative mess to Exodus, when the obvious villain is elsewhere&#8230;why?</p>
<p>Still waiting on Jennings&#8230;.</p>
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