“[O]nly all homosexuals have broken relationships with their fathers …”

I really do not see how a statement such as this can be made. From what I’ve seen of ‘life’, it looks definitively false to me.

Denver – In God we trust, all others must bring data. What did you bring?

In other words, that fact remains that if you traumatize a child in a particular way you will create a homosexual condition. If you do not traumatize a child, he will be heterosexual. If you do not traumatize a child in a particular way, he will be heterosexual. The nature of that trauma is an early attachment break during the bonding phase with the father.

I can disconfirm this. My family was the classic triadic family. I am straight, with never a gay moment in my life. I grew up in a neighborhood with classic triadic families. Few families did not look like what Nicolosi describes (one who didn’t is gay); my three best friends in childhood (who are all straight) had the classic triadic family. This may be a composite memory but this description is typical of my memories of one of the guys. I have a recollection of him telling me he had to come home early because his mom was worried about him. I went home with him and his mom and dad were sitting in the living room. My friend asked if we could walk over to another friend’s house. The dad was reading the paper and then left the room. The mom looked distraught and said that he would have to be home by dark and wear a sweater. I learned later that the dad always left those “decisions” to the mom. My friend is straight.

My experiences are not science and I get that. However, when the science is consistent with my experience, it is even more compelling. Given the life I have lived and seen in my lower-middle class neighborhood, the reparative drive theory makes little practical sense. For those SSA people, who did have that kind of life, it would make all the sense in the world. However, I hope that as a general theory, one can see that it does not fit all.

but I reason that if the father-son disruption theme was so tied to homosexuality, I would find homosexuality in the sons

When i have Nicolosi correct in my mind: You don’t should make a reverse thinking.Father-son-problems can lead to many different dificilities or to no difficilities. Only all homosexuals have a broken father-son-relationship. Not reverse.You can only cancel Nicolosis Theory with a gay with a good father-son-relationship. But i’m sure, he will find brokeness. And not a mother can tell him this, because: Why is the father not here? Then he is not interested, he had a broken father-son-relationship. 🙂

Tudor…. Then why do they activate the panic brain area more than straights when they see men?

And what study of MRIs in gay men are you quoting here?

Then why do they activate the panic brain area more than straights when they see men?

At all.

I haven’t read Nicolosi or any other reparative/reorientative theorist in this area, but I may say something that he or others have said without knowing it, which doesn’t mean I paid any money to read their books. I’m not a professional, I don’t have to do it.

I’ve been interested for a while in how many psychological processes related to gender work, physically, so if he says something that can be supported by empirical studies then it’s OK.

THe story I told in the first comment was meant to show the whole picture, the context in which all the members of a family evolve. The older brother is resentful and holds many grudges to his family even today, because he thinks they always treated the little brother like he was something special. He actually grew apart from the whole family, and his family (father, mother brother) say that he grew up influenced by people from outside the home, that he never listened to them. The older brother grew up straight-assertive-married and autonomous from his family, the younger brother grew up only attracted to his own gender, lonely, single, depressed, depending on his family for some socialisation. THis case shows something significant, I think, because I don;t think they could be physically (genetically, etc) worlds apart.

So what I’m saying is, this is not about Nicolosi or some other guy, because I get the feeling that there are people who feel good about attacking this guy or maybe they just use reactance on others, to make them discover the truth by themselves.