Comments on: Spontaneous change compared to therapeutically mediated change https://wthrockmorton.com/2009/09/22/spontaneous-change-compared-to-therapeutically-mediated-change/ A [retired] college psychology professor's observations about public policy, mental health, sexual identity, and religious issues Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:53:54 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.3 By: Mary https://wthrockmorton.com/2009/09/22/spontaneous-change-compared-to-therapeutically-mediated-change/#comment-33331 Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:53:54 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=4974#comment-33331 Awesome! Way to go Debbie and Michael!!

]]> By: Debbie Thurman https://wthrockmorton.com/2009/09/22/spontaneous-change-compared-to-therapeutically-mediated-change/#comment-33330 Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:43:12 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=4974#comment-33330 Hey, Michael. I very much enjoyed our conversation, too. Yes, let’s both tend the whole garden.

Folks, I just want to say that Michael and I have realized that there is a right and a wrong way to engage each other in this or any other forum, and we had a pleasant talk about a host of things near and dear to our hearts. The garden allusion here is to a wonderful devotional reading Michael shared with me.

We have agreed the quest for the exclusively gay-to-straight male can be put on a shelf, at least for our purposes here.

]]> By: Michael Bussee https://wthrockmorton.com/2009/09/22/spontaneous-change-compared-to-therapeutically-mediated-change/#comment-33329 Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:28:00 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=4974#comment-33329 Debbie, just got through talking to you by phone. Totally enjoyed it! I will take your advice, and focus on “tending the garden” instead of “chipping away at the rock.” 🙂

]]> By: James https://wthrockmorton.com/2009/09/22/spontaneous-change-compared-to-therapeutically-mediated-change/#comment-33328 Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:57:48 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=4974#comment-33328 http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/personal/09/25/o.honey.shrunk.argument/

Looks like Lisa is branching out into a completely different area of relationship research these days. No GLBT research she’s comfortable touching anymore?

]]> By: Eddy https://wthrockmorton.com/2009/09/22/spontaneous-change-compared-to-therapeutically-mediated-change/#comment-33327 Mon, 28 Sep 2009 23:09:52 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=4974#comment-33327 Temptation and orientation aren’t just ‘different words for the same thing’ though. ‘Temptation’ is normally viewed as coming at the spirit from the outside (the world, the flesh, the devil) while ‘orientation’ is normally viewed as coming from within (God-given created status). ‘Temptation’ is incidental. It might be a lot of recurring incidents but it is incidental. ‘Orientation’ suggests that it is who you are.

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