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	Comments on: Shame and attachment loss: Going from bad to worse	</title>
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		By: Rainer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rainer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 18:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Of course there are straights who feel the same way. Only, straights and gays who feel that way may likewise be able to hold jobs or advance in careers - so I wouldn&#039;t  infer that a homosexual who holds a job or advances in a career couldn&#039;t be suffering from &quot;Nicolosi&#039;s trauma&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course there are straights who feel the same way. Only, straights and gays who feel that way may likewise be able to hold jobs or advance in careers &#8211; so I wouldn&#8217;t  infer that a homosexual who holds a job or advances in a career couldn&#8217;t be suffering from &#8220;Nicolosi&#8217;s trauma&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Warren		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Warren]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 01:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rainer - Straights feel and act the same way. The kinds of experiences you describe are true of straights too. 



Read the most &lt;a href=&quot;/2009/09/25/father-son-estrangement-a-straight-guy-problem/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;recent post&lt;/a&gt;; the fellow who had shame with his father should have been gay according to the &quot;shame-trauma-makes-you-gay&quot; theory.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rainer &#8211; Straights feel and act the same way. The kinds of experiences you describe are true of straights too. </p>
<p>Read the most <a href="/2009/09/25/father-son-estrangement-a-straight-guy-problem/" rel="nofollow">recent post</a>; the fellow who had shame with his father should have been gay according to the &#8220;shame-trauma-makes-you-gay&#8221; theory.</p>
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		By: Rainer		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2009/09/16/shame-and-attachment-loss-going-from-bad-to-worse/#comment-33158</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rainer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 00:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Warren,



&quot;If all of this is true, homosexuals should be unable to hold jobs, or advance in careers, or do other things which require secure object relations and attachments&quot;.

That doesn&#039;t follow for me. I hold a moderately well-paid job. Notwithstanding I&#039;ve always had the feeling to be &quot;a child in an adult&#039;s world&quot; - a child which couldn&#039;t grow up but has learned to fake a grown-up, doesn&#039;t  allow strangers to come too near (and see through the fake) and has found a professional niche where more grown-up abilities (like exerting authority) aren&#039;t necessary.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warren,</p>
<p>&#8220;If all of this is true, homosexuals should be unable to hold jobs, or advance in careers, or do other things which require secure object relations and attachments&#8221;.</p>
<p>That doesn&#8217;t follow for me. I hold a moderately well-paid job. Notwithstanding I&#8217;ve always had the feeling to be &#8220;a child in an adult&#8217;s world&#8221; &#8211; a child which couldn&#8217;t grow up but has learned to fake a grown-up, doesn&#8217;t  allow strangers to come too near (and see through the fake) and has found a professional niche where more grown-up abilities (like exerting authority) aren&#8217;t necessary.</p>
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		By: James		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2009/09/16/shame-and-attachment-loss-going-from-bad-to-worse/#comment-33157</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 16:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m on page 150 and It&#039;s dense reading.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m on page 150 and It&#8217;s dense reading.</p>
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		By: Fg68at		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 05:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nicolosi remeber me now more of Aardweg and his &quot;self pitty&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicolosi remeber me now more of Aardweg and his &#8220;self pitty&#8221;.</p>
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