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		By: JR		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JR]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Michael Bussee   ~



Thanks for the response. Does he reckon the development of homosexuality is a disorder or is it a normal development?



Forgive my poor wording. I am neither professional nor an academic.



When I looked into therapy that affirmed orientation change, I (perhaps naively) believed everybody was on the same page and the same side.



I&#039;m struggling to make sense of what exactly the differences are between all these groups that ultimately seek to help homosexuals who are unhappy with their feelings. 



Is it policy differences? Academic schisms? Personal quarrels?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Bussee   ~</p>
<p>Thanks for the response. Does he reckon the development of homosexuality is a disorder or is it a normal development?</p>
<p>Forgive my poor wording. I am neither professional nor an academic.</p>
<p>When I looked into therapy that affirmed orientation change, I (perhaps naively) believed everybody was on the same page and the same side.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m struggling to make sense of what exactly the differences are between all these groups that ultimately seek to help homosexuals who are unhappy with their feelings. </p>
<p>Is it policy differences? Academic schisms? Personal quarrels?</p>
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		By: David Blakeslee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Blakeslee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 02:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Evan,



I don&#039;t think it is about population density.



It is about anger, social isolation and marginalization.  Sex is the myth that promises to alleviate all of this...



We market the myth---but first we have to make people feel empty.



This could be a transition to a related topic...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Evan,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it is about population density.</p>
<p>It is about anger, social isolation and marginalization.  Sex is the myth that promises to alleviate all of this&#8230;</p>
<p>We market the myth&#8212;but first we have to make people feel empty.</p>
<p>This could be a transition to a related topic&#8230;</p>
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		By: David Blakeslee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Blakeslee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 01:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Late returning:



@ Evan,



If you were addressing me about holiness and abstinence for gays (and straights).  I would like to respond.



You seem to be arguing that if there is not a reliable outlet for sexual pleasure, it does harm to a person....



Although this is a common belief, I know of no research to support such an assertion.  Anyone?



I think it may be an Urban Legend...I would like to see it debunked on Mythbusters.



Some have argued that the sexually repressed are more creative and innovative, using sublimation (as a defense) thereby making more profound contributions to society.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Late returning:</p>
<p>@ Evan,</p>
<p>If you were addressing me about holiness and abstinence for gays (and straights).  I would like to respond.</p>
<p>You seem to be arguing that if there is not a reliable outlet for sexual pleasure, it does harm to a person&#8230;.</p>
<p>Although this is a common belief, I know of no research to support such an assertion.  Anyone?</p>
<p>I think it may be an Urban Legend&#8230;I would like to see it debunked on Mythbusters.</p>
<p>Some have argued that the sexually repressed are more creative and innovative, using sublimation (as a defense) thereby making more profound contributions to society.</p>
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		By: Eddy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 01:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mary&#039;s comment came prior to Warren stepping in with his admonition. I really cannot imagine any way for Mary to answer Michael&#039;s question without transgressing Warren&#039;s appeal. This is the portion of Warren&#039;s statement that would likely be violated. 



&lt;blockquote&gt;The main point of the thread is that the APA did not recommend church swapping, wife swapping, husband swapping, or any thing else like that. Gays and straights are sinners according to orthodox Christianity so it doesn’t really matter what “groups” do since “groups” don’t really do anything; individuals do.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



IMHO, the entire &#039;holiness detour&#039; needs a &quot;Road Closed&quot; sign. We need to either get back to the actual &#039;main point of the thread&#039; or let this thread die.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary&#8217;s comment came prior to Warren stepping in with his admonition. I really cannot imagine any way for Mary to answer Michael&#8217;s question without transgressing Warren&#8217;s appeal. This is the portion of Warren&#8217;s statement that would likely be violated. </p>
<blockquote><p>The main point of the thread is that the APA did not recommend church swapping, wife swapping, husband swapping, or any thing else like that. Gays and straights are sinners according to orthodox Christianity so it doesn’t really matter what “groups” do since “groups” don’t really do anything; individuals do.</p></blockquote>
<p>IMHO, the entire &#8216;holiness detour&#8217; needs a &#8220;Road Closed&#8221; sign. We need to either get back to the actual &#8216;main point of the thread&#8217; or let this thread die.</p>
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		By: Michael Bussee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Bussee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 01:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mary, you said:  &lt;blockquote&gt;I agree &lt;em&gt;there are differences in how gay christians and straight christians view holiness when it comes to sex and sexuality&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



I am curious.  What do you see as the main differences in how gay Christians and straight Christians view morality?  Do you see any similarities?  Could you give some examples?  Are you speaking of individuals or groups?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary, you said:  </p>
<blockquote><p>I agree <em>there are differences in how gay christians and straight christians view holiness when it comes to sex and sexuality</em>.</p></blockquote>
<p>I am curious.  What do you see as the main differences in how gay Christians and straight Christians view morality?  Do you see any similarities?  Could you give some examples?  Are you speaking of individuals or groups?</p>
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