Comments on: New Scientific Research revisited

By: Warren

Warren — Sun, 23 Aug 2009 20:02:18 +0000

All - I don't know why some at NARTH stretch things so. Maybe because there is no real press that keeps them honest on this kind of stuff. Even Christian media and bloggers (save a couple commenting here) ignore this stuff. If you can get by with things, then one might get sloppy or worse. Instead, people read this stuff and they think critics are just ideologically opposed to NARTH. Thus, people who might be inclined to hold them accountable don't know enough to do so. Some Christian media simply won't look into it even when it is pointed out. Case in point, OneNewsNow, the "information" arm of the American Family Association. I pointed out to the reporter on the story about the APA and switching churches that their slant on it was wrong. I was rebuffed without a hearing. Rarely in all my time looking into media mistakes have I been just dismissed in that way.

By: Michael Bussee

Michael Bussee — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 02:27:55 +0000

I mean, they seem to want respect so badly — and then they blow it so badly…

By: Michael Bussee

Michael Bussee — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 02:27:23 +0000

Warren, on this thread and numerous other times, you have suggested that NARTH is being less than honest — about “new” research, about the APA report, twisting data, etc.

Why would NARTH do or say something it knows is not true? They must know they are going to get caught eventually… What would be the point?

By: Bob

Bob — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:21:58 +0000

Probably instead of doing NEW SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH, they were out finding NEW DONORS. Check this out:

From: info@narth.com

Subject: News from Narth

Date: 30 July 2009 22:42:28 BST

NARTH The National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality

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Every year for the past five years a major funding organization has given NARTH a $50,000 donation. When we went to see them a week or so ago they asked us a simple question, “If we were to eliminate NARTH from our list of organizations we fund could you survive? Do you really have the support of a large enough number of “grassroots” friends and donors to justify our continued financial help?”

Wow! You see, money is tight all across the country and even large foundations don’t want to waste their funds on organizations that don’t have member support. They wanted us to demonstrate that NARTH is worthy of their continued financial commitment – BECAUSE – we have committed friends and supporters.

I think there is a rather simple solution. On August 30th we want to take them a list of 1,000 people who believe in NARTH enough to contribute $20. That’s right, just enough for a half tank of gas, a nice dinner out, or two movie tickets.

Only $20! I think they will be impressed and frankly, NARTH needs their (and your) support. Want to do more? Donate an additional $20 in the name of your spouse, child, or grandchild. Donate $20 in the name of someone NARTH has help overcome unwanted homosexuality, but please donate!

Click on the button below and take the NARTH $20 Challenge and help us prove that the good that NARTH does is a mile wide and 1,000 friends deep.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT! -The NARTH Board of Directors

No time for NEW SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH.

By: Don

Don — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:51:27 +0000

Obviously the reason Dean Byrd did not have time to answer the question is that he is FAR too busy working on “new scientific research.”