Comments on: NARTH releases journal https://wthrockmorton.com/2009/06/18/narth-releases-journal/ A [retired] college psychology professor's observations about public policy, mental health, sexual identity, and religious issues Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:38:59 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.3 By: Katie Cannon https://wthrockmorton.com/2009/06/18/narth-releases-journal/#comment-29289 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:38:59 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=4199#comment-29289 Warren,

Oh, it’s in the first article, written in 2001

Throckmorton has reviewed this literature, as well as the few more recent studies, and concluded that there is support for the effectiveness of approaches seeking to modify patterns of homosexual arousal41 For example, psychoanalytic approaches obtained change rates to exclusive heterosexuality ranging from 18% to 44%, with rates for shifts in orientation tending to be even higher.

I am so proud of myself — I cut and paste this. I’m so techno!

Did I read somewhere that you think maybe around 15% of people experience some shift, if not “categorical”?

Katie

]]> By: Michael Bussee https://wthrockmorton.com/2009/06/18/narth-releases-journal/#comment-29288 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:13:12 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=4199#comment-29288 Warren: We have been conversing via email. He said he didn’t know who Cameron was. I showed him that NARTH indeed cites his “research” on the NARTH website.

He expressed no interest in looking into this or stepping up to the plate and rebuking Cameron’s “abhorrent solutions” — as you have done.

He also expressed no interest in speaking directly to ex-gay survivors to really determine, first hand, whether or not the NARTH/reparative therapy does harm.

He further accuses me of believing that people (1) have no “right” to seem help for their unwanted SSA and (2) that professionals should be prohibited from provding such “help”.

As you know, I don’t believe either of these things.

]]> By: Katie Cannon https://wthrockmorton.com/2009/06/18/narth-releases-journal/#comment-29287 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:05:36 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=4199#comment-29287 Hey Warren,

You do read the posts!! Wow.

I’m talking about the article who’s link is provided above — by Michael Bussee. Two comments back in this thread.

K.

]]> By: Warren https://wthrockmorton.com/2009/06/18/narth-releases-journal/#comment-29286 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:46:43 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=4199#comment-29286 @Katie Cannon: You have the journal? I just got it and haven’t read it yet. I will do a post soon about it with comments on their use of my articles.

What exactly are you referring to?

]]> By: Katie Cannon https://wthrockmorton.com/2009/06/18/narth-releases-journal/#comment-29285 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:44:01 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=4199#comment-29285 Either Warren, or those who know him well, I just read the NARTH article provided above, and it quotes Warren as saying that change happens within a psychoanalytic approach X% of the time.

What does Warren (that’s you) think the percent is?

Thanks,

Katie

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