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		By: Mary		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[I kind of think that American provincial Christianity leads to fascism.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I kind of think that American provincial Christianity leads to fascism.</p>
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		By: Warren		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 01:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[William - Stay tuned for the new edition of the Poisoned Stream. You may find your ideas in there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>William &#8211; Stay tuned for the new edition of the Poisoned Stream. You may find your ideas in there.</p>
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		By: William		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don’t see how Scott Lively can stop with &lt;em&gt;The Pink Swastika&lt;/em&gt;. If he understands his duty to humanity, he must give us more of the benefit of his erudition and scholarly acumen. The following ought to among his future publications:



&lt;em&gt;The Pink Hammer and Sickle



Garibaldi’s Pink-shirts: Homosexuality and the Unification of Italy



The Stars and Pink Stripes



The Pink Rose of England



The Pink Shamrock



The Pink Welsh Poppy: Homosexual Roots of Welsh Nationalism



The Blue, White and Pink Tricolore: How Homosexuality Caused the French Revolution



The Pink Watchmen on the Walls&lt;/em&gt; 

Lack of evidence? A nicety like that needn’t be an obstacle to a man of Scott Lively’s calibre – nor has it been up to now. 



Take the unification of Italy, for instance. The Neapolitan Luigi Settembrini, who participated in the Risorgimento movement, was homosexual and wrote a homoerotic novel called &lt;em&gt;Neoplatonici&lt;/em&gt;.



The Pink Shamrock? Well, how about the Irish patriot Sir Roger Casement, who was a “notorious homosexual”? (It’s strange, but I never hear anyone described as a “notorious heterosexual”.)



What of Welsh Nationalism? The Plaid Cymru party has at present three members in the Parliament at Westminster. Only one of them, I believe, is homosexual, but it is to be noted that each of them has voted for every gay-friendly measure that the U.K. Parliament has passed, from equalization of the age of consent to the introduction of civil partnerships, so that proves that Plaid Cymru must be a front for the homosexual agenda. (Again, strange: I can’t find a copy of the “gay agenda” or the “homosexual agenda” anywhere. It’s certainly not on the shelves at W.H. Smith’s, and although a search on the Amazon web-site brings up several books &lt;em&gt;about&lt;/em&gt; it, the agenda itself seems unobtainable. Perhaps it’s a “classified document” covered by the Official Secrets Act.)



And then there’s the French Revolution. Jean-Jacques-Régis de Cambacérès, first Duke of Parma, was a supporter of the French Revolution and he was also a “notorious homosexual”. As a lawyer he worked on much of the legislation of the revolutionary period, and he eventually became Minister of Justice. It is to be noted that the National Constituent Assembly abolished the law against “sodomy” when it revised French criminal law in 1791, and that the Penal Code of 1810, which dealt with sexual crimes and which was imposed on many other European countries as a result of Napoleon’s conquests, did not mention homosexual behaviour as such. Obviously the whole thing was a plot to homosexualize Europe.



Simple, isn’t it? All that you need to do is to find some incidental facts and to blow them up into matters of huge significance. (Any inconvenient facts can be misrepresented, subtly distorted or simply ignored.) You can then weave a fantastic web of ahistorical trash around them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t see how Scott Lively can stop with <em>The Pink Swastika</em>. If he understands his duty to humanity, he must give us more of the benefit of his erudition and scholarly acumen. The following ought to among his future publications:</p>
<p><em>The Pink Hammer and Sickle</p>
<p>Garibaldi’s Pink-shirts: Homosexuality and the Unification of Italy</p>
<p>The Stars and Pink Stripes</p>
<p>The Pink Rose of England</p>
<p>The Pink Shamrock</p>
<p>The Pink Welsh Poppy: Homosexual Roots of Welsh Nationalism</p>
<p>The Blue, White and Pink Tricolore: How Homosexuality Caused the French Revolution</p>
<p>The Pink Watchmen on the Walls</em> </p>
<p>Lack of evidence? A nicety like that needn’t be an obstacle to a man of Scott Lively’s calibre – nor has it been up to now. </p>
<p>Take the unification of Italy, for instance. The Neapolitan Luigi Settembrini, who participated in the Risorgimento movement, was homosexual and wrote a homoerotic novel called <em>Neoplatonici</em>.</p>
<p>The Pink Shamrock? Well, how about the Irish patriot Sir Roger Casement, who was a “notorious homosexual”? (It’s strange, but I never hear anyone described as a “notorious heterosexual”.)</p>
<p>What of Welsh Nationalism? The Plaid Cymru party has at present three members in the Parliament at Westminster. Only one of them, I believe, is homosexual, but it is to be noted that each of them has voted for every gay-friendly measure that the U.K. Parliament has passed, from equalization of the age of consent to the introduction of civil partnerships, so that proves that Plaid Cymru must be a front for the homosexual agenda. (Again, strange: I can’t find a copy of the “gay agenda” or the “homosexual agenda” anywhere. It’s certainly not on the shelves at W.H. Smith’s, and although a search on the Amazon web-site brings up several books <em>about</em> it, the agenda itself seems unobtainable. Perhaps it’s a “classified document” covered by the Official Secrets Act.)</p>
<p>And then there’s the French Revolution. Jean-Jacques-Régis de Cambacérès, first Duke of Parma, was a supporter of the French Revolution and he was also a “notorious homosexual”. As a lawyer he worked on much of the legislation of the revolutionary period, and he eventually became Minister of Justice. It is to be noted that the National Constituent Assembly abolished the law against “sodomy” when it revised French criminal law in 1791, and that the Penal Code of 1810, which dealt with sexual crimes and which was imposed on many other European countries as a result of Napoleon’s conquests, did not mention homosexual behaviour as such. Obviously the whole thing was a plot to homosexualize Europe.</p>
<p>Simple, isn’t it? All that you need to do is to find some incidental facts and to blow them up into matters of huge significance. (Any inconvenient facts can be misrepresented, subtly distorted or simply ignored.) You can then weave a fantastic web of ahistorical trash around them.</p>
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		By: Evan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 06:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nice series... even if there&#039;s a portent in there.



Warren, on what you said about Nietzsche... I remember reading once that he had a story of unrequited love with Lou Salome, the Russian-born psychoanalyst. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/confetta/2976002556/in/photostream/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;There she is&lt;/a&gt;. She was very cute and apparently a very bright woman too (Rilke fell for her too..). Her rejection seem to have dealt a major blow to Nietsche&#039;s already faltering state of health. I might be wrong about this, but I think he wrote in a letter to one of his few friends that he was suffering &#039;like a god&#039;. Leaving grandiosity aside, it seems he had a strong motivation to pursue her and regret her.



On the Nietzsche subject, it always happens that some are trying to stick labels or to appropriate some ideas for different ideological means (like the affair his sister had with the Nazi regime). More recently, a guy wrote a book trying to paint Nietzsche&#039;s biography in rainbow colours...



It may say more about the culture wars that are going on right now and here than about the philosopher&#039;s leanings.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice series&#8230; even if there&#8217;s a portent in there.</p>
<p>Warren, on what you said about Nietzsche&#8230; I remember reading once that he had a story of unrequited love with Lou Salome, the Russian-born psychoanalyst. <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/confetta/2976002556/in/photostream/" rel="nofollow">There she is</a>. She was very cute and apparently a very bright woman too (Rilke fell for her too..). Her rejection seem to have dealt a major blow to Nietsche&#8217;s already faltering state of health. I might be wrong about this, but I think he wrote in a letter to one of his few friends that he was suffering &#8216;like a god&#8217;. Leaving grandiosity aside, it seems he had a strong motivation to pursue her and regret her.</p>
<p>On the Nietzsche subject, it always happens that some are trying to stick labels or to appropriate some ideas for different ideological means (like the affair his sister had with the Nazi regime). More recently, a guy wrote a book trying to paint Nietzsche&#8217;s biography in rainbow colours&#8230;</p>
<p>It may say more about the culture wars that are going on right now and here than about the philosopher&#8217;s leanings.</p>
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		By: Nick Foster		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 00:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, yes. Homosexuality played a part in Naziism, as it did in most other German political and cultural movements because homosexuality was and is as common in Germany and amongst the German-speaking peoples, especially among the various elites, as in America. Incidentally, Fascism is not a political or philosophical system any more than Capitalism is. Fascism is more a set of attitudes, a means rather than an end and almost impossible to define accurately.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, yes. Homosexuality played a part in Naziism, as it did in most other German political and cultural movements because homosexuality was and is as common in Germany and amongst the German-speaking peoples, especially among the various elites, as in America. Incidentally, Fascism is not a political or philosophical system any more than Capitalism is. Fascism is more a set of attitudes, a means rather than an end and almost impossible to define accurately.</p>
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