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		By: ryu238		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2020 00:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2009/06/05/a-major-study-of-child-abuse-and-homosexuality-revisited/#comment-106846&quot;&gt;Garret Hughes&lt;/a&gt;.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2009/06/05/a-major-study-of-child-abuse-and-homosexuality-revisited/#comment-106846">Garret Hughes</a>.</p>
<p>Figures.</p>
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		By: Garret Hughes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Garret Hughes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2020 22:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2009/06/05/a-major-study-of-child-abuse-and-homosexuality-revisited/#comment-96490&quot;&gt;ryu238&lt;/a&gt;.

Unfortunately the Tomeo (2001) study is commonly still cited on anti-gay sites. There is an article shared tens of thousands of times titled &quot;&lt;i&gt;The entire LGBT narrative just crumbled&lt;/i&gt;&quot;, which uses Tomeo to claim half of gay people were abused, and calls it a &quot;fact&quot;. 

One of the main authors of Tomeo (2001) was Donald I. Templer, a white supremacist who pushed pseudoscientific race and IQ theories. He said black people naturally had poor impulse control and should voluntarily opt for sterilization in return for cash payments.

it really makes you question the intentions of Templer, who appears to be the main author of the study. When you discount the boys who were already homosexual, just 15% of the total homosexual group reported a &#039;molestation&#039; prior to knowledge of their sexuality. 

What this study really shows is that inappropriate age gap sexual activity can occur in young homosexual teenagers, since they cannot risk exposing their sexuality to people in their own age group. Thus they are much more likely to go to the internet/venues where the men will be older, and because a small minority of men will always be willing to pursue a youthful person (male or female) the ability for them to do so is increased with the gay teenager who has no other options.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2009/06/05/a-major-study-of-child-abuse-and-homosexuality-revisited/#comment-96490">ryu238</a>.</p>
<p>Unfortunately the Tomeo (2001) study is commonly still cited on anti-gay sites. There is an article shared tens of thousands of times titled &#8220;<i>The entire LGBT narrative just crumbled</i>&#8220;, which uses Tomeo to claim half of gay people were abused, and calls it a &#8220;fact&#8221;. </p>
<p>One of the main authors of Tomeo (2001) was Donald I. Templer, a white supremacist who pushed pseudoscientific race and IQ theories. He said black people naturally had poor impulse control and should voluntarily opt for sterilization in return for cash payments.</p>
<p>it really makes you question the intentions of Templer, who appears to be the main author of the study. When you discount the boys who were already homosexual, just 15% of the total homosexual group reported a &#8216;molestation&#8217; prior to knowledge of their sexuality. </p>
<p>What this study really shows is that inappropriate age gap sexual activity can occur in young homosexual teenagers, since they cannot risk exposing their sexuality to people in their own age group. Thus they are much more likely to go to the internet/venues where the men will be older, and because a small minority of men will always be willing to pursue a youthful person (male or female) the ability for them to do so is increased with the gay teenager who has no other options.</p>
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		By: ryu238		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2018 03:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Some right wing site had the gall to say this:
&quot;So much for homosexuality being an immutable characteristic, like race or sex.  No Gay Gene has ever been found, and more to the point, homosexuals fear one being found, lest couples in the GATTACA future screen for and eliminate potentially-gay babies.  Instead, homosexuals are often products of molestation themselves or other forms of aggressive childhood recruiting.&quot;
 https://politicalvelcraft.org/2010/11/05/reparative-therapy-for-those-addicted-and-suffering-with-homosexualisms-pepsi-is-giving-a-million-dollars-to-pimp-homosexualism-agenda/
Yeah let&#039;s look at these anti-gay failures: 
https://www.lehmiller.com/blog/2014/3/31/are-religiously-motivated-people-able-to-change-their-sexual-orientation
And off course they then link to failed studies: http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_exst.htm
http://www.starnewsonline.com/article/NC/20100612/News/605064114/WM/
http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/Articles/000,003.htm]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some right wing site had the gall to say this:<br />
&#8220;So much for homosexuality being an immutable characteristic, like race or sex.  No Gay Gene has ever been found, and more to the point, homosexuals fear one being found, lest couples in the GATTACA future screen for and eliminate potentially-gay babies.  Instead, homosexuals are often products of molestation themselves or other forms of aggressive childhood recruiting.&#8221;<br />
 <a href="https://politicalvelcraft.org/2010/11/05/reparative-therapy-for-those-addicted-and-suffering-with-homosexualisms-pepsi-is-giving-a-million-dollars-to-pimp-homosexualism-agenda/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://politicalvelcraft.org/2010/11/05/reparative-therapy-for-those-addicted-and-suffering-with-homosexualisms-pepsi-is-giving-a-million-dollars-to-pimp-homosexualism-agenda/</a><br />
Yeah let&#8217;s look at these anti-gay failures:<br />
<a href="https://www.lehmiller.com/blog/2014/3/31/are-religiously-motivated-people-able-to-change-their-sexual-orientation" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.lehmiller.com/blog/2014/3/31/are-religiously-motivated-people-able-to-change-their-sexual-orientation</a><br />
And off course they then link to failed studies: <a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_exst.htm" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_exst.htm</a><br />
<a href="http://www.starnewsonline.com/article/NC/20100612/News/605064114/WM/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.starnewsonline.com/article/NC/20100612/News/605064114/WM/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/Articles/000,003.htm" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/Articles/000,003.htm</a></p>
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		By: Ann		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sadly, most Americans are incapable of critical thinking and do not even realize they are being brainwashed on numerous levels.



Tim,



I agree with the above statement except I would substitute the word &quot;most&quot; with &quot;some&quot;.



I am very interested in the myriad of orientations you referred to.  I have always thought orientation had varying degrees and dimensions, however, I didn&#039;t know there were so many.  Do you have any link or information that I can refer to for this?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, most Americans are incapable of critical thinking and do not even realize they are being brainwashed on numerous levels.</p>
<p>Tim,</p>
<p>I agree with the above statement except I would substitute the word &#8220;most&#8221; with &#8220;some&#8221;.</p>
<p>I am very interested in the myriad of orientations you referred to.  I have always thought orientation had varying degrees and dimensions, however, I didn&#8217;t know there were so many.  Do you have any link or information that I can refer to for this?</p>
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		By: Tim Leary		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Leary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2013 05:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting topics of discussion.  The answer why female homosexuals have less STDs than male homosexuals is because biologically the p-nis was designed to impregnate the female and not the male rectum (resulting in numerous hygenic problems).  And despite claims to the contrary by activists, rectal sex is widely practiced and has led to over 300,000 dead male homosexuals from lethal STDs in America at a rate 100 times the normal population and creating the worst health epidemic in the nations history.



FYI, the human genome project confirmed that there is no such thing remotely close to a &quot;gay gene&quot; and it was all fabricated by delusional activist researchers and promoted in the press and academia to fraud the public and further the gay revolution/fraud.  Not to mention there was a book published by gay activists (called After the Ball) that blantantly said to lie about the causes of sexual orientations and to make in seem inborn in order to advance the gay revolution. 



By the way, there are over 500 different types of sexual orientations, and according to the gay activist argument, if a person does not pursue their orientation or act on impulse they will get depressed, suicidal, etc.  Where-as,  the rest of society must control their impulses, yet, somehow manage to not get depressed., etc., etc.  But of course sexual repression is bad, where as repressing gluttony, greed, and violent orienations is good., etc., etc.



In summary, every single argument made by a homosexual can be deconstructed and rendered illogical by applying basic reasoning.   Sadly, most Americans are incapable of critical thinking and do not even realize they are being brainwashed on numerous levels.



The entire gay revolution is a fraud based on Kinsey&#039;s well proven fabricated research, and supplanted by delusional activist researchers and sex industry that just generate studies to feed their delusions and make billions of dollars on exploiting impulses and delusions.  



NO CIVILIZATION, GENERATION, OR RELIGION EVER IN THE HISTORY OF THE HUMAN RACE (in over 8,000 years of written history) EVER HAD ANYTHING REMOTELY CLOSE TO HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGES.   Its a complete fraud.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting topics of discussion.  The answer why female homosexuals have less STDs than male homosexuals is because biologically the p-nis was designed to impregnate the female and not the male rectum (resulting in numerous hygenic problems).  And despite claims to the contrary by activists, rectal sex is widely practiced and has led to over 300,000 dead male homosexuals from lethal STDs in America at a rate 100 times the normal population and creating the worst health epidemic in the nations history.</p>
<p>FYI, the human genome project confirmed that there is no such thing remotely close to a &#8220;gay gene&#8221; and it was all fabricated by delusional activist researchers and promoted in the press and academia to fraud the public and further the gay revolution/fraud.  Not to mention there was a book published by gay activists (called After the Ball) that blantantly said to lie about the causes of sexual orientations and to make in seem inborn in order to advance the gay revolution. </p>
<p>By the way, there are over 500 different types of sexual orientations, and according to the gay activist argument, if a person does not pursue their orientation or act on impulse they will get depressed, suicidal, etc.  Where-as,  the rest of society must control their impulses, yet, somehow manage to not get depressed., etc., etc.  But of course sexual repression is bad, where as repressing gluttony, greed, and violent orienations is good., etc., etc.</p>
<p>In summary, every single argument made by a homosexual can be deconstructed and rendered illogical by applying basic reasoning.   Sadly, most Americans are incapable of critical thinking and do not even realize they are being brainwashed on numerous levels.</p>
<p>The entire gay revolution is a fraud based on Kinsey&#8217;s well proven fabricated research, and supplanted by delusional activist researchers and sex industry that just generate studies to feed their delusions and make billions of dollars on exploiting impulses and delusions.  </p>
<p>NO CIVILIZATION, GENERATION, OR RELIGION EVER IN THE HISTORY OF THE HUMAN RACE (in over 8,000 years of written history) EVER HAD ANYTHING REMOTELY CLOSE TO HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGES.   Its a complete fraud.</p>
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		By: Emily K		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Emily K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Apr 2013 18:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think people here are confusing orientation with philias. Sexual orientation is like a compass, it points to a direction. Philias - or what you&#039;re specifically attracted to (ethnicity, height, age, body type) - is like the weather. 



SO, if you&#039;re steering a ship on the ocean, the compass will tell you which way is north or south - but it will NOT tell you what the weather will be like in those directions. And obviously if you seek clear skies and not thunderstorm clouds, you&#039;ll have to use some other method to obtain that information - and it has nothing to do with the direction you&#039;re traveling, but rather, what happens to exist in that direction.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think people here are confusing orientation with philias. Sexual orientation is like a compass, it points to a direction. Philias &#8211; or what you&#8217;re specifically attracted to (ethnicity, height, age, body type) &#8211; is like the weather. </p>
<p>SO, if you&#8217;re steering a ship on the ocean, the compass will tell you which way is north or south &#8211; but it will NOT tell you what the weather will be like in those directions. And obviously if you seek clear skies and not thunderstorm clouds, you&#8217;ll have to use some other method to obtain that information &#8211; and it has nothing to do with the direction you&#8217;re traveling, but rather, what happens to exist in that direction.</p>
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		By: Emily K		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Emily K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Apr 2013 18:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Teresa, the main reason why lesbian STD rates are so &quot;low&quot; is because there is a large blackout in study of WSW epidemiology. Again, WSW are seen as &quot;not having real sex&quot; so it&#039;s not worth any scientist&#039;s time to study. 



The truth is we DO have our own health issues to worry about.



As for men having hire STD rates, this is not because they are &quot;freakier.&quot; It&#039;s because certain sexual practices of gay men involve more bodily fluids and higher risk of exposure to these fluids. The same is true for WSM. Women in heterosexual acts are more likely to contract a disease because of the nature of the act and the design of our bodies. In fact heterosexual acts are &quot;more diseased&quot; than female homosexual acts.



Does this make them morally worse? No. They are just as &quot;moral&quot; as any other sexual act involving consenting adults.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teresa, the main reason why lesbian STD rates are so &#8220;low&#8221; is because there is a large blackout in study of WSW epidemiology. Again, WSW are seen as &#8220;not having real sex&#8221; so it&#8217;s not worth any scientist&#8217;s time to study. </p>
<p>The truth is we DO have our own health issues to worry about.</p>
<p>As for men having hire STD rates, this is not because they are &#8220;freakier.&#8221; It&#8217;s because certain sexual practices of gay men involve more bodily fluids and higher risk of exposure to these fluids. The same is true for WSM. Women in heterosexual acts are more likely to contract a disease because of the nature of the act and the design of our bodies. In fact heterosexual acts are &#8220;more diseased&#8221; than female homosexual acts.</p>
<p>Does this make them morally worse? No. They are just as &#8220;moral&#8221; as any other sexual act involving consenting adults.</p>
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		By: Warren		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Apr 2013 18:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2009/06/05/a-major-study-of-child-abuse-and-homosexuality-revisited/#comment-28160&quot;&gt;David H&lt;/a&gt;.

What is your point, David H.? One family does not a representative sample make.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2009/06/05/a-major-study-of-child-abuse-and-homosexuality-revisited/#comment-28160">David H</a>.</p>
<p>What is your point, David H.? One family does not a representative sample make.</p>
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		By: Ann		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Apr 2013 18:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think if you looked back 50-60 years ago, you would have heard some saying that.



Ken,



I think you are probably right, however, I don&#039;t think the attractions, in and of themselves, precluded the possibility of choice.  In other words, the attractions were a preference, not an orientation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think if you looked back 50-60 years ago, you would have heard some saying that.</p>
<p>Ken,</p>
<p>I think you are probably right, however, I don&#8217;t think the attractions, in and of themselves, precluded the possibility of choice.  In other words, the attractions were a preference, not an orientation.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Apr 2013 17:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ann says:

April 13, 2013 at 10:45 pm 



&quot;I don’t think I have ever heard anyone say they wish they wouldn’t have an attraction to a certain ethnicity&quot;



I think if you looked back 50-60 years ago, you would have heard some saying that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann says:</p>
<p>April 13, 2013 at 10:45 pm </p>
<p>&#8220;I don’t think I have ever heard anyone say they wish they wouldn’t have an attraction to a certain ethnicity&#8221;</p>
<p>I think if you looked back 50-60 years ago, you would have heard some saying that.</p>
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