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	Comments on: Genetic effects of gender atypical behavior and sexual orientation: A study of Finnish twins	</title>
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		By: William		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 14:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Identical twins share the same genes while fraternal twins do not.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Sorry if I&#039;m throwing a spanner in the works, but has it not now been established that identical twins don&#039;t, as was previously and more or less universally assumed, have absolutely identical genes?
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/02/080215121214.htm]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Identical twins share the same genes while fraternal twins do not.</p></blockquote>
<p>Sorry if I&#8217;m throwing a spanner in the works, but has it not now been established that identical twins don&#8217;t, as was previously and more or less universally assumed, have absolutely identical genes?<br />
<a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/02/080215121214.htm" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/02/080215121214.htm</a></p>
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		By: Ann		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 15:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[B.T. Carolus,
Very funny!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B.T. Carolus,<br />
Very funny!</p>
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		By: Drowssap		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 13:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;B.T.Carolus&lt;/strong&gt;
HAHAHA!  I love that comic.
You are right and I do understand that studies need to be repeated.  But at this point I think everyone gets it.  SSA is part genetic and part environment.
This puts it in the same category as virtually every other phenomenon that mankind has discovered.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>B.T.Carolus</strong><br />
HAHAHA!  I love that comic.<br />
You are right and I do understand that studies need to be repeated.  But at this point I think everyone gets it.  SSA is part genetic and part environment.<br />
This puts it in the same category as virtually every other phenomenon that mankind has discovered.</p>
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		By: B.T.Carolus		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[B.T.Carolus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 05:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Drowssap:
Technically, the scientific method demands repetition of the experiment in order to confirm results.  Although I do agree with you that sometimes this becomes overkill.  And there are pieces of this particular study that I just don&#039;t find convincing (and I don&#039;t just mean the idea that 3,600 Finnish twins can/should be generalized to the world&#039;s population).
At risk of becoming the comic depositor:
http://xkcd.com/242/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drowssap:<br />
Technically, the scientific method demands repetition of the experiment in order to confirm results.  Although I do agree with you that sometimes this becomes overkill.  And there are pieces of this particular study that I just don&#8217;t find convincing (and I don&#8217;t just mean the idea that 3,600 Finnish twins can/should be generalized to the world&#8217;s population).<br />
At risk of becoming the comic depositor:<br />
<a href="http://xkcd.com/242/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://xkcd.com/242/</a></p>
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		By: Drowssap		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 14:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;This is the part I don&#039;t understand.&lt;/strong&gt;
We know from a dozen other studies that SSA is part genetic and part environment.
So if we already know the answer why do scientists keep running the same study over and over again?  Does it really matter if SSA is 2% heritable or 22% heritable or 42% heritable?  Does the difference mean anything?  What if a future study finds that SSA is 0% or 100% heritable?  Scientists will dismiss that research because it doesn&#039;t match the other studies.   The entire exercise seems like it&#039;s geared to find the same answer over and over again.
In any case Ulcers and many other non-genetic phenomenon show &quot;heritability&quot;.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://archinte.ama-assn.org/cgi/reprint/160/1/105.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here is a study on genetics and peptic ulcers&lt;/a&gt;.  In case you didn&#039;t know peptic ulcers are caused by bacteria and yes human genes also play an important role.  Which phenomenon &lt;strong&gt;don&#039;t&lt;/strong&gt; have a genetic and environmental component?  I can&#039;t think of many.
It&#039;s as if scientists ran a study each morning to determine if the sun was going to come up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>This is the part I don&#8217;t understand.</strong><br />
We know from a dozen other studies that SSA is part genetic and part environment.<br />
So if we already know the answer why do scientists keep running the same study over and over again?  Does it really matter if SSA is 2% heritable or 22% heritable or 42% heritable?  Does the difference mean anything?  What if a future study finds that SSA is 0% or 100% heritable?  Scientists will dismiss that research because it doesn&#8217;t match the other studies.   The entire exercise seems like it&#8217;s geared to find the same answer over and over again.<br />
In any case Ulcers and many other non-genetic phenomenon show &#8220;heritability&#8221;.<br />
<a href="http://archinte.ama-assn.org/cgi/reprint/160/1/105.pdf" rel="nofollow">Here is a study on genetics and peptic ulcers</a>.  In case you didn&#8217;t know peptic ulcers are caused by bacteria and yes human genes also play an important role.  Which phenomenon <strong>don&#8217;t</strong> have a genetic and environmental component?  I can&#8217;t think of many.<br />
It&#8217;s as if scientists ran a study each morning to determine if the sun was going to come up.</p>
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