Comments on: NARTH not petitioning APAs https://wthrockmorton.com/2009/04/29/narth-not-petitioning-apas/ A [retired] college psychology professor's observations about public policy, mental health, sexual identity, and religious issues Fri, 01 May 2009 04:02:53 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.1.3 By: Jayhuck https://wthrockmorton.com/2009/04/29/narth-not-petitioning-apas/#comment-27169 Fri, 01 May 2009 04:02:53 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=3823#comment-27169 Warren,
Sounds like the study was divided along ideological lines. The people who didn’t like it did their best to downplay it.

]]> By: Warren https://wthrockmorton.com/2009/04/29/narth-not-petitioning-apas/#comment-27168 Fri, 01 May 2009 00:32:21 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=3823#comment-27168 My suggestion is to use the search function on this blog and look for Shidlo and read more about it.
Here is a place to start:
/2007/09/22/homophobic-therapies-documenting-the-damage/

]]> By: Jayhuck https://wthrockmorton.com/2009/04/29/narth-not-petitioning-apas/#comment-27167 Fri, 01 May 2009 00:30:53 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=3823#comment-27167 Maybe I’m approaching this the wrong way – what was the nature of the S&S study? Why did they stop it?

]]> By: Jayhuck https://wthrockmorton.com/2009/04/29/narth-not-petitioning-apas/#comment-27166 Fri, 01 May 2009 00:26:49 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=3823#comment-27166 I’m curious why, if S&S were doing research on harm, the people who benefited from the therapy were contacting them? Did they not know the nature of the study?

]]> By: Jayhuck https://wthrockmorton.com/2009/04/29/narth-not-petitioning-apas/#comment-27165 Fri, 01 May 2009 00:17:09 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=3823#comment-27165 I knew one of them had had a good deal of trouble tracking down anyone who identified as ex-gay. Thanks

]]> By: Jayhuck https://wthrockmorton.com/2009/04/29/narth-not-petitioning-apas/#comment-27164 Fri, 01 May 2009 00:16:32 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=3823#comment-27164

but the outcry against therapies for people with unwanted SSA is not based upon any meaningful body of research….one study.

But it is based on very personal tragedy experienced by untold numbers of people. And that is not something that can be simply dismissed.

]]> By: Warren https://wthrockmorton.com/2009/04/29/narth-not-petitioning-apas/#comment-27163 Fri, 01 May 2009 00:15:52 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=3823#comment-27163 @Jayhuck: He did have some difficulty but he found more positives more quickly (not quite 2 years versus 5 years for S&S).

]]> By: Jayhuck https://wthrockmorton.com/2009/04/29/narth-not-petitioning-apas/#comment-27162 Fri, 01 May 2009 00:14:42 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=3823#comment-27162 It must have been Dr. Spitzer’s study – it may have been him who was having trouble finding any ex-gay people for his study!

]]> By: Jayhuck https://wthrockmorton.com/2009/04/29/narth-not-petitioning-apas/#comment-27161 Fri, 01 May 2009 00:13:23 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=3823#comment-27161 David,
I personally haven’t seen people in those other groups hurt to the extent they have been hurt in various ex-gay groups – their numbers are troubling – and these are just the ones I know about.

]]> By: David Blakeslee https://wthrockmorton.com/2009/04/29/narth-not-petitioning-apas/#comment-27160 Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:43:07 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=3823#comment-27160 @ Everyone…
Oops, facts are troublesome things…
The fact seems to be that S and S is the only study.
Then there are anecdotal accounts like Pathias.
And support groups, such as Ex-gay survivor.
I am aware of clients who felt harmed by referral to AA; I have had clients who were harmed by “recovered memories.”
But studies to verify? None.
I think it should be done…but the outcry against therapies for people with unwanted SSA is not based upon any meaningful body of research….one study.
And they are outraged by Byrd’s and Nicolosi’s pay to publish studies and self-reports! How absurd and unbalanced this criticism is.

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