Comments on: Christian Post reports on Golden Rule Pledge

By: Jayhuck

Jayhuck — Wed, 15 Apr 2009 00:17:16 +0000

Thanks Warren! 🙂

By: Warren

Warren — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:28:14 +0000

Debbie – Please read the context. I mentioned it because jayhuck seemed to think the sentence about change was a part of the GRP.
I will add though that change means different things for the different groups. Change in context is what the DOS kids are going for (a more gay friendly environment) and the DOT kids are talking about change of orientation.
Exodus has been in the past quite political. I would say recently, they have sent mixed messages.

By: Debbie Thurman

Debbie Thurman — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:22:33 +0000

Warren, the DOT also is not the GRP, yet you mentioned your dislike of their use of the word change. The word’s fair game in both contexts, is it not? You singled it out in the one but not the other. I merely wanted to know why. Is Exodus a political entity in you view?

By: Warren

Warren — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:38:02 +0000

The GRP is not the DOS so why are asking me about the materials? I would not agree with all of the changes asked for by the GLSEN materials.
In contrast to what you quoted and what the DOT is about, the GRP is non-political. The differences of perspective will continue and not be changed by either day. The GRP will not fix that but hopefully where applied, it will help tone down the rhetoric which reaches levels that cannot sustain relationships.

By: Debbie Thurman

Debbie Thurman — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:27:43 +0000

Warren, if the unspecified “change” mentioned on the Day of Truth cards bothers you, are you also bothered by GLSEN’s reference to “change” in the context of their DOS materials? GLSEN’s “How To Get What You Want with an ‘Ask'” says, “The Day of Silence can be a great tool to catapult change at your school. Do you want a more LGBT inclusive library, teacher training, LGBT inclusive nondiscrimination policies or something else? If you want something to change — you can use the Day of Silence to help with your ‘ask!'” Also on that flier is this example of what “LGBT inclusive nondiscrimination policies” means: “We wanted a queer-friendly prom, and after showing that many students and staff care, we got a queer-friendly prom. We said we wouldn’t be silenced, and we won’t.”
So, tell me again about how GLBT students are silenced? They are the most vocal and catered-to minority of students on campuses. And how is GLSEN’s DOS not a political tool for change? It is blatantly political. They must love you and your GRP. You’re playing patsy with them.
How am I wrong?