Comments on: Reorientation therapies in the UK: Survey results

By: Warren

Warren — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 10:28:46 +0000

Rander is correct that the thread has become about something other than the post.
I think points have been made and remade about science and faith — there are clear disagreements about those issues.
Does anyone have anything to add about the post and the King study?
I for one would like to see Dr. King address the questions he did not address above (e.g., why he categorized congruence therapy as change therapy).

By: Rander

Rander — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 06:28:57 +0000

This conversation has devolved into mudslinging and disrespect, and I just dont have time or energy for that.
I thank you all for teaching me about how you see the world. It has been an interesting exchange.
I will move on now.
Warm regards,
Malene / Rander

By: Mary

Mary — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 04:43:33 +0000

So when people are influenced by society it will have more validity than when they are influenced by their faith.
That makes sense#$%^&*()_

By: jayhuck

jayhuck — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 04:10:37 +0000

BUT, before I go to bed, I just wanted to let Carole know that enjoyed the Slate article – and I agree with a great deal of what the writer was trying to say.
One thing missing from the article are those gay people who do live a heterosexual life but for whom that life is causing distress – we usually see this in those men and women who were married first and then come out later in life affirming their SSA.
One thing you said Carole that I never told you I agree with is that people are multi-faceted. We have to make room for the full spectrum of sexuality. I have a bisexual friend who stopped dating men one day and started dating women – finally he got married and has two kids. He did this because he felt that this would curb the distress he felt over being gay in today’s climate. The problem is that he is very unhappy now – he has gained a great deal of weight and is considering divorce.
I just think we have to remember that being gay, as the article said, is not in need of a cure. That it is a normal variation of sexuality – realize that society can and does put pressure on gay people, even today, to live heterosexuality – and then go from there, all the time remembering that each person is an individual with different needs.
It will be very interesting in a few years, when gay married couples become more widespread and prevalent – how this cultural change effects people’s desire to want to change. I would assume that as being gay in society become’s less and issue that we would see a reduction in the desire to seek change – outside of religious reasons that is!
Anyway – thanks for posting that link

By: jayhuck

jayhuck — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 03:59:07 +0000

Sigh – Eddy, I’m tired of this. I’m going to bed. Goodnight!