Comments on: Brief post: Scott Lively on criminalization of homosexuality and compulsory therapy

By: Dr. Arthur Frederick Ide

Dr. Arthur Frederick Ide — Sat, 09 Jun 2012 15:23:51 +0000

Scott lively is neither a psychologist nor a psychiatrist. For him to equate drunk driving (and his own drug addiction) as tantamount to homosexuality and thus ” it was during that period I accepted Christ and was spontaneously healed of alcoholism and drug addiction” is not a retraction of his call for jailing (and even executing) homosexuals. Everything he has written and said for the record flies in the face of serious psychological studies. Every reputable and recognized group (from the American Psychological Association, American Medical Association, American Psychiatric Association, and so forth) have long noted that homosexuality is a trait born with the fetus’ entrance into this world (whether or not it is genetic or evolves during gestation in the uterus is not yet settled). All the “reparative therapy” — that no reputable counselor or psychologist or even therapist recognizes as legitimate — will not “cure” what is basic within the psychology of the individual. Hitler tried that, and failed–murdering tens of thousands of LGBT people in the Third Reich. As for Exodus International, many of its original founders have returned to a LGBT life style, while members of the clergy, like Ted Haggard and Roman Catholic Bishop Weakland of Wisconsin attempt to hide their own homosexuality but are eventually exposed as with Protestant Bishop Eddie of Georgia while paying off their boy-toys.

By: Michael Bussee

Michael Bussee — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 07:15:07 +0000

And EXODUS sent a rep!!! Something we "founders" would have never, ever done. Heck, we turned down requests from Anita Bryant and John Briggs -- and they look downright pro-gay by comparison.

By: David Blakeslee

David Blakeslee — Tue, 26 May 2009 14:20:36 +0000

@ David G,
“Conviction (not cognition) is a set of beliefs by which we live, make decisions, choose behaviors, and formulate our lives. This is similar to religion, which the state should neither promote, nor require (’establish’), though it is acquired through experiences in one’s interaction with the home environment, peer environment, school, media, and personal ‘experimentation.’”
I think there is a stronger argument for tolerance and rights for GLBT in this argument than in the innate, biological argument that also uses the racial minority arguement.
GLBT is an identity, wrapped in sensations and experiences and convictions about what works and what is best for them…much like religion.
It may be that religious belief and practice has a genetic component…but we have not argued tolerance and rights based upon that.

By: Mary

Mary — Mon, 25 May 2009 17:34:04 +0000

That is a very good idea. He is basically promoting unAmerican ideas.

By: Hunter

Hunter — Sun, 24 May 2009 23:31:54 +0000

Everyone should write to the US State Department and US Department of Homeland Security Office of Investigations to demand a full inquiry into Scott Lively’s overseas activities, which include inciting violence and persecution against people in Uganda, other African countries, and the former Soviet countries, based on sexual orientation.

By: Warren

Warren — Thu, 14 May 2009 14:46:37 +0000

This looks like a hit and run by Maureen.
She is not sticking around apparently to address any comments after she posted the article by Lively.
However, for those following this thread, I will mention that there is a coming a more detailed analysis of the Pink Swastika and related arguments, possibly next week but hopefully by the end of the month.

By: Ann

Ann — Wed, 13 May 2009 23:12:23 +0000

p.s. – I just got a better search result and remember who he is now – thanks!

By: Ann

Ann — Wed, 13 May 2009 23:10:00 +0000

Maureen,
When was this written and what was the publication? Also, what organization is the autor affiliated with? I looked him up but the results were only of what others said or wrote about him. I know this has been answered before so please forgive the redundant question from me – I should have remembered but didn’t.

By: Timothy Kincaid

Timothy Kincaid — Wed, 13 May 2009 22:20:36 +0000

How strange.
I certainly know a lot of folks who disagree with me over the sinfulness of same-sex behavior or even about the appropriate response to same-sex attractions who are not homophobes at all.
They don’t feel the need to lie about gay people, seek to impose political punishment on them, imagine disease rates that are literally impossible, or seek to force them into reorientation. They just live in accordance with their faith and invite (not coerce) others to join them.
But Scott Lively… now there is the leaving breathing walking talking visual aide for the term “homophobe”.

By: Mary

Mary — Wed, 13 May 2009 19:06:30 +0000

You cannot make people ungay!