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	Comments on: Mankind Project Houston has not implemented Scinto court settlement	</title>
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		By: Matt		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 17:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The real issue with MKP for me is whether or not men will be harmed or healed. It is obviously both. The reason I can not support MKP is that there is not a lot of oversight of the harm done in fact there is denial of it. I suggest caution before attending. The fact that MKP hands over depth psychological techniques to anyman willing to pay for their GUTS and leadership training is very problematic. Why do they do this and still do it? Most igroups do not have liscenced therapist but even if MKP decides to stick with &quot;trained fascilitators&quot; their training should be much more stringent. Some should pass and others should fail. As it is now once you pay for the training you are encouraged to use it. This is idiotic!!! And why have they not learned from it? If their mission is to help men why do they not set a higher standard? It takes years to get a psy D or LCSW why does MKP believe men taking a 12 hours of training suddenly qualify to use depth psychology!!! It is in all respects outrageous.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real issue with MKP for me is whether or not men will be harmed or healed. It is obviously both. The reason I can not support MKP is that there is not a lot of oversight of the harm done in fact there is denial of it. I suggest caution before attending. The fact that MKP hands over depth psychological techniques to anyman willing to pay for their GUTS and leadership training is very problematic. Why do they do this and still do it? Most igroups do not have liscenced therapist but even if MKP decides to stick with &#8220;trained fascilitators&#8221; their training should be much more stringent. Some should pass and others should fail. As it is now once you pay for the training you are encouraged to use it. This is idiotic!!! And why have they not learned from it? If their mission is to help men why do they not set a higher standard? It takes years to get a psy D or LCSW why does MKP believe men taking a 12 hours of training suddenly qualify to use depth psychology!!! It is in all respects outrageous.</p>
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		By: T		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[T]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2010 22:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I attended the weekend many years ago.  They mass market to individuals with mental and other psychological issues, especially those with drug or &quot;coming out&quot; issues.  I was having a rough patch and a few MKP people ganged up on me.  Local therapists in the Houston area who have attended the weekend sway their clients to the weekend, calling it a &quot;panacea&quot; for any issues.  Given that MKP does not investigate or perform psychological checks beforehand or ensure that the staff are certified by an accredited psychological organization, I believe that the weekend is completely unethical by any set of professional standards.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I attended the weekend many years ago.  They mass market to individuals with mental and other psychological issues, especially those with drug or &#8220;coming out&#8221; issues.  I was having a rough patch and a few MKP people ganged up on me.  Local therapists in the Houston area who have attended the weekend sway their clients to the weekend, calling it a &#8220;panacea&#8221; for any issues.  Given that MKP does not investigate or perform psychological checks beforehand or ensure that the staff are certified by an accredited psychological organization, I believe that the weekend is completely unethical by any set of professional standards.</p>
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		By: MKPhurts		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MKPhurts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 18:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Twolf - just want to remind you that you paid for that community. You should get something for your money. You got lots of emotion and armchair wisdom, but the proof will be what happens next.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twolf &#8211; just want to remind you that you paid for that community. You should get something for your money. You got lots of emotion and armchair wisdom, but the proof will be what happens next.</p>
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		By: Timberwolf		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2009/01/07/mankind-project-houston-has-not-implemented-scinto-court-settlement/#comment-24889</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timberwolf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 17:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Mankind Project has been a blessing for me.  This program can no more affect somebody&#039;s desire to commit suicide, than listening to Led Zepplin or Ozzy Osbourne records spun backwards.  I can also say that the other 19 men I went through initiation with were also significantly improved by going through this process.  That is a pretty good percentage!  to give an idea of how much this helped, this is a letter I wrote to my leaders:
From the bottom of my heart, I wanted to thank you for being there for me this past weekend.
What a powerful experience for me!  This is the first time I had ever done anything like this.  I came in to this full of self-hatred, not knowing who or what I was, and struggling with addiction.
During the weekend I was scared, intimidated, excited, deeply moved, and uplifted.
I came out of this having a better understanding of who and what I am.  I am more accepting of myself.  My struggle with my addiction is at bay, like it has not been for years.  My relationships with my loved ones, customers, and even complete strangers have improved.  I could go on...
A great tool I learned is to look people in the eyes.  That has always been a struggle for me.  I spent so much of my life hiding what I was, and dwelling in shame and guilt.  You guys had taught me the importance of this form of communication and expression.  I am no longer afraid to look people in the eyes.
I never knew that a community of men could be so caring and loving of one another.  I have been involved in a 12-step program for almost 4 years, and in group therapy since last fall.  These programs have helped me.  But, my initiation weekend really pushed me over the edge.  Very, very effective for me.  I thought I was beyond real help.  Now I know that I am not.
I had a significant emotional and spiritual awakening during this process.
Each one of you has touched me deeply!  Thank you!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Mankind Project has been a blessing for me.  This program can no more affect somebody&#8217;s desire to commit suicide, than listening to Led Zepplin or Ozzy Osbourne records spun backwards.  I can also say that the other 19 men I went through initiation with were also significantly improved by going through this process.  That is a pretty good percentage!  to give an idea of how much this helped, this is a letter I wrote to my leaders:<br />
From the bottom of my heart, I wanted to thank you for being there for me this past weekend.<br />
What a powerful experience for me!  This is the first time I had ever done anything like this.  I came in to this full of self-hatred, not knowing who or what I was, and struggling with addiction.<br />
During the weekend I was scared, intimidated, excited, deeply moved, and uplifted.<br />
I came out of this having a better understanding of who and what I am.  I am more accepting of myself.  My struggle with my addiction is at bay, like it has not been for years.  My relationships with my loved ones, customers, and even complete strangers have improved.  I could go on&#8230;<br />
A great tool I learned is to look people in the eyes.  That has always been a struggle for me.  I spent so much of my life hiding what I was, and dwelling in shame and guilt.  You guys had taught me the importance of this form of communication and expression.  I am no longer afraid to look people in the eyes.<br />
I never knew that a community of men could be so caring and loving of one another.  I have been involved in a 12-step program for almost 4 years, and in group therapy since last fall.  These programs have helped me.  But, my initiation weekend really pushed me over the edge.  Very, very effective for me.  I thought I was beyond real help.  Now I know that I am not.<br />
I had a significant emotional and spiritual awakening during this process.<br />
Each one of you has touched me deeply!  Thank you!</p>
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		By: Timberwolf		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2009/01/07/mankind-project-houston-has-not-implemented-scinto-court-settlement/#comment-24888</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timberwolf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 17:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with David.  GLBT persons still need to have our civil rights breakthrough, as the African Americans had in the 1960&#039;s.  Come on, it&#039;s about time!  Yes, GLBT persons can still have a relationship with God, and yes, God loves them, as he loves all people.  What we are is not a choice, if it was, we would all choose to be straight.  My therapist is &quot;Christain&quot;, and for some reason, he can&#039;t see past my sexuality.  I am so much more than my sexual preference!  He is trained to help people, but instead he has hurt me, deeply!  He should know better.  We no longer live in biblical times.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with David.  GLBT persons still need to have our civil rights breakthrough, as the African Americans had in the 1960&#8217;s.  Come on, it&#8217;s about time!  Yes, GLBT persons can still have a relationship with God, and yes, God loves them, as he loves all people.  What we are is not a choice, if it was, we would all choose to be straight.  My therapist is &#8220;Christain&#8221;, and for some reason, he can&#8217;t see past my sexuality.  I am so much more than my sexual preference!  He is trained to help people, but instead he has hurt me, deeply!  He should know better.  We no longer live in biblical times.</p>
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