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		By: concerned		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[concerned]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 04:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mary,
   I will add a bit of an extension to what you are expressing - &quot;Christian who follows the traditional teachings of the scripture&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary,<br />
   I will add a bit of an extension to what you are expressing &#8211; &#8220;Christian who follows the traditional teachings of the scripture&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Mary		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 03:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2008/12/30/family-acceptance-and-same-sex-attracted-teens/#comment-24785&quot;&gt;Karen K&lt;/a&gt;.

Karen,
I hear ya!  For Thanksgiving, I was seated across from two lesbians, it was no coincidence (if you new my step mother.)   The hatred I felt from them and the no recognition I get from my whole family (step or otherwise) is tremendous.  My onw mother&#039;s eyes stop blinking if I bring up the subject and she (an very talkative person) becomes quiet.  It took me over seven years before I even told about my change.
In my bible study, I opened up to one woman and am not really sure how it will go from here on out but the estrangement one feels and the awkwardness that others feel can drive one back to the gay community just to feel accepted.  Sad thing is ... after awhile, that doesn&#039;t feel right either.  I came home this evening and had that awful feeling of belonging to the third kind of person.  Not gay, not straight like others are straight and an outcast hiding in plain sight.
Ex gays just don&#039;t talk about it.   We are an outcast in many ways - from both groups.  We are not accpeted for having been there, done that and no one wants us to talk about it.  To the gays - it is fictitious, to most of our families - it is gross.
The message is very clear - we are not supposed to exist as we do.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2008/12/30/family-acceptance-and-same-sex-attracted-teens/#comment-24785">Karen K</a>.</p>
<p>Karen,<br />
I hear ya!  For Thanksgiving, I was seated across from two lesbians, it was no coincidence (if you new my step mother.)   The hatred I felt from them and the no recognition I get from my whole family (step or otherwise) is tremendous.  My onw mother&#8217;s eyes stop blinking if I bring up the subject and she (an very talkative person) becomes quiet.  It took me over seven years before I even told about my change.<br />
In my bible study, I opened up to one woman and am not really sure how it will go from here on out but the estrangement one feels and the awkwardness that others feel can drive one back to the gay community just to feel accepted.  Sad thing is &#8230; after awhile, that doesn&#8217;t feel right either.  I came home this evening and had that awful feeling of belonging to the third kind of person.  Not gay, not straight like others are straight and an outcast hiding in plain sight.<br />
Ex gays just don&#8217;t talk about it.   We are an outcast in many ways &#8211; from both groups.  We are not accpeted for having been there, done that and no one wants us to talk about it.  To the gays &#8211; it is fictitious, to most of our families &#8211; it is gross.<br />
The message is very clear &#8211; we are not supposed to exist as we do.</p>
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		By: Mary		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2008/12/30/family-acceptance-and-same-sex-attracted-teens/#comment-24788</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 03:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2008/12/30/family-acceptance-and-same-sex-attracted-teens/#comment-24787&quot;&gt;Marty&lt;/a&gt;.

And I will add from my own experience - Christian.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2008/12/30/family-acceptance-and-same-sex-attracted-teens/#comment-24787">Marty</a>.</p>
<p>And I will add from my own experience &#8211; Christian.</p>
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		By: Marty		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 01:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;I hope they will recognize and address all ‘intolerance of difference’ not just the sexual identity difference.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Good luck with that one.  &quot;Intolerance of difference&quot; is a key component of socialization, not just parenting.  Peer pressure, stigma, taboo, are all related to getting along successfully with our neighbors.  Obviously, those who go against the common wisdom of their family and peers will suffer the consequences of social rejection.  This is true whether you are gay, alcoholic, fat, albino, or prone to tattoos and piercings, etc etc etc.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;I hope they will recognize and address all ‘intolerance of difference’ not just the sexual identity difference.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Good luck with that one.  &#8220;Intolerance of difference&#8221; is a key component of socialization, not just parenting.  Peer pressure, stigma, taboo, are all related to getting along successfully with our neighbors.  Obviously, those who go against the common wisdom of their family and peers will suffer the consequences of social rejection.  This is true whether you are gay, alcoholic, fat, albino, or prone to tattoos and piercings, etc etc etc.</p>
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		By: Eddy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eddy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 22:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;What kind of an impact does it make on a person who is rejected by their family - irregardless of their inclinations.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I&#039;m not sure if this is where Mary was going with that but I wonder about the distinction of being rejected &#039;for being gay&#039; and of being rejected for other reasons. My brothers were rejecting me for my non-athleticism and my hippie/peace freak life preference before any of us were sure I was gay. I appreciate where this study is going but I hope they will recognize and address all &#039;intolerance of difference&#039; not just the sexual identity difference.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What kind of an impact does it make on a person who is rejected by their family &#8211; irregardless of their inclinations.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if this is where Mary was going with that but I wonder about the distinction of being rejected &#8216;for being gay&#8217; and of being rejected for other reasons. My brothers were rejecting me for my non-athleticism and my hippie/peace freak life preference before any of us were sure I was gay. I appreciate where this study is going but I hope they will recognize and address all &#8216;intolerance of difference&#8217; not just the sexual identity difference.</p>
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		By: Karen K		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karen K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mary,
I think you make an interesting point--about ex-gays. I have had family members who love me despite my history, but nevertheless are extremely uncomfortable with the topic. They cannot talk about it. Even when I do ministry related to helping those who want to leave homosexuality, certain relatives don&#039;t even acknowledge my prayer requests. This is a challenge for me. I try to be open and transparent because I believe that is healthy, but it can be disheartening when its simply the idea--whether or not I am engaging--that can cause alienation. I feel the stigma. The reproach I sometimes feel from certain Christians makes me want to go hang out in the gay community more often where I don&#039;t have to feel like a freak.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary,<br />
I think you make an interesting point&#8211;about ex-gays. I have had family members who love me despite my history, but nevertheless are extremely uncomfortable with the topic. They cannot talk about it. Even when I do ministry related to helping those who want to leave homosexuality, certain relatives don&#8217;t even acknowledge my prayer requests. This is a challenge for me. I try to be open and transparent because I believe that is healthy, but it can be disheartening when its simply the idea&#8211;whether or not I am engaging&#8211;that can cause alienation. I feel the stigma. The reproach I sometimes feel from certain Christians makes me want to go hang out in the gay community more often where I don&#8217;t have to feel like a freak.</p>
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		By: Pathia		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 23:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[According to the numbers, it looks like bisexual boys were the most effected.  What&#039;s said to those kids are probably some of the worst stuff.  When I admitted it to my family, the VERY first thing my dad said was &quot;You&#039;re the reason F**KING AIDS has gotten into the straight population!&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the numbers, it looks like bisexual boys were the most effected.  What&#8217;s said to those kids are probably some of the worst stuff.  When I admitted it to my family, the VERY first thing my dad said was &#8220;You&#8217;re the reason F**KING AIDS has gotten into the straight population!&#8221;</p>
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		By: Mary		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Warren,
I&#039;d like to know about those who are ex gay and their families have rejected them?   What kind of an impact does it make on  aperson who is rejected by their family - irregardless of their inclinations.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warren,<br />
I&#8217;d like to know about those who are ex gay and their families have rejected them?   What kind of an impact does it make on  aperson who is rejected by their family &#8211; irregardless of their inclinations.</p>
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