Comments on: Reparative therapy: The musical?

By: Fg68at

Fg68at — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:13:57 +0000

According this message the lyrics will stay a secret up to the debut performance . My italian is very also bad. I had used windowslivetranslator, Google-Translation, Leo-Dictionary it-ge and some stereotypes. :-) The only more in the interview anout his phase was: He was 18, the duration was seven month and he came over it. Maybe some interesting for you: My strongest heterosexual feelings was mostly, when im feeling very bad. :-) I had to deal with some different-sex-attractions. :-) (In person most women with little baby-fat and a significant look, who stimulated my protective instinct. And boyish girls.) And i had feeled attraction to two women before my coming out. Both was very nice and the girlfriend of a friend from school. I flirted, in my thinking absolutly free that something happend or not. I would only show that i liked her. One girl said at one time to do not so much, because her boyfriend and my friend was a little jealous. After my coming out i recognised i was truly in love with him and therefore i flirted with his girlfriends. Projectioning and mixing my feelings. 8-) Because before my coming out "i cant't love him". "With the same sex you can only have hidden sexual acts." and "Gays are old men who lusted after young boys." "I had nothing against homosexuals, i can think to have sexual acts with men i like." A likewise situation was only one time after that. But this was short and i realised was it was. And she was to different in interests, feelings and what she liked in bed (we three discussed very open and she had for example a more "manly timing").

By: Warren

Warren — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:16:05 +0000

In reply to Fg68at. I wrote Povia and asked if he could provide the lyrics in English. FGlist your English is much better than my Italian so we would like to read translated lyrics. If you have access to them, please post them. RE: Povia's phase, I would like to find out more about that. Some do have a phase and go back to their original orientation. Some gays have a straight phase as well.

By: Fg68at

Fg68at — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:11:27 +0000

Povia say 2005 he know from own experience how someone becoming gay. It is based on what and how frequently someone learn it as a young. Like the childs, that a beaten by the parents and then the perversion have to be beaten. Sounds like contitioning. He had a gay phase of seven months and now he know how someone, how everyone, become gay.

By: carole

carole — Sun, 04 Jan 2009 05:31:26 +0000

Eddy,
Thanks for that refresher on Rico Suave!

By: Eddy

Eddy — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 00:43:53 +0000

Patrick–
You’re absolutely right.
I’d heard the one by Sarah on the radio and then freaked out when I heard, as Whoopi calls it: The F-Bomb. LOL.
I like your latter suggestion as well. I’m sure that it would be too late for their counter song to be considered for this event but it could enjoy a heck of a life on “You Tube”. I love a good parody even if it pokes fun at me.
Back in my early ministry days, Anita Bryant’s strange campaign was going on. I forget which gay group pulled this together but ….they run this ad about a gay rally or event (I honestly forget what) and there’s Anita’s voice in the background singing her most famous patriotic song. The voice-over guy end his message just as Anita sings “And we’ll all be gay…gay…gay…” with the assist of a touch of echo. (“When Johnny Comes Marching Home Again”)

By: Patrick

Patrick — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 00:28:54 +0000

As far as I know they still censor the F-word in songs – or substitute it.
James Blunt – You’re Beautiful – substituted the word flying for the other f word in the radio version.
Same with a Sarah Mclachlan tune which featured the f-word – that was censored out.
I sure there are numerous other examples.
Anyway, if the gay community wants to protest this – the answer is not screams and shouts – but how about a satire counter song pointed at Nicolosi and the exgay movement. Gay people are a creative lot – I am sure they could submit a whooper of a tune.

By: Eddy

Eddy — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 00:26:08 +0000

“Rico Suave” by Geraldo was this strange mix of latino, rap and hip hop. The singer, a handsome young latino, was all ‘come on’ talk throughout the song. The lyrics were only half in English but those were rather graphic. He saw himself as a gigolo and was wanting to pleasure you. LOL. I just googled the lyrics a while ago and, although I found the song ‘campy’ when it was out, ….well, let’s just say I can see how they agreed that some of the suggestiveness was a tad over the line.
As I heard the story of the blackballing though…it was more because the dj’s found it to be an annoying song but one that was being requested all day (and all night) long. Their request lines were overflowing with young girls NEEDING to hear that song 10 or more times a day.
Warren: Any chance you could link us to the song–‘Luca Was Gay’? It just occurred to me that I haven’t heard it or even seen the lyrics. Off on a search I go….

By: carole

carole — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 00:05:56 +0000

Eddy said,

And hey, I left out Vicki Lawrence’s “That’s The Night The Lights Went Out In Georgia”…’little sister got’s bloodstains on her hands”…

Oh, wow, sometimes memories are so funny. I love that one, Eddy! To think that the comedic sidekick of Carol Burnett, VL ,sang that song is just so amusing. Actually, I really miss Carol, Vicki, Harvey, and Tim Conway!
Sorry for going OT, but that Saturday line-up of All in the Family, the Mary Tyler Moore Show, Bob Newhart, and Carol Burnett just can’t ever be topped. In those days, the country had more shared experiences as the media choices were not as varied and while it’s nice to have so many choices (as in this computer and blogging), it was a very “bonding” experience when the nation as a whole shared so many things.

One final tidbit: There is one famous song that got blackballed all across America even though it was immensely popular. I really do need to do some more follow up on that story. It was a first (to my memory) when dj’s themselves said ‘this song is trash; it’s meaning and essence is garbage; we simply aren’t going to play it anymore’. Remember Rico Suave? Reee-ko Swarrr-vey…..

You know, that name does ring a vague bell, but I remember no particulars. How about you save me from a Google search and fill me in? I do remember (who can forget?) how we thought we were really getting away with something with “Louie, Louie.” We also thought Mick was quite risque with “Can’t get no…I can’t no….I can’t get no….. satisfaction. Hey, hey, hey!” LOL.

By: Eddy

Eddy — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 23:44:24 +0000

Carole–
It’s the last line of verse three that’s the clincher:
Well I laughed but that didn’t work,
and it’s only her love that keeps me wearing this hurt.
Now I’m crying but deep down inside,
well I did it to him, now it’s my turn to die.
And hey, I left out Vicki Lawrence’s “That’s The Night The Lights Went Out In Georgia”…’little sister got’s bloodstains on her hands”…
LOL. I guess there are occasional side benefits to having a karaoke addiction!
Another fun search for the new year, 2009 is to pull up the Billboard Top 100 for 1969 (40 years ago!) and then groan to realize how old we are!!!
When I was young, the radio did actually censor a few songs. Janis Ian’s “Society’s Child” was banned on some stations due to it’s interracial theme…so was a song called “Beans In Your Ears” (a dangerous suggestion). The Guess Who’s “Bus Rider” would get bleeped for the “I’m so awful #@$% glad I’m not in your shoes” and some would even bleep the simple ‘damned’ from Jonathan Edward’s “Sunshine”…”He can’t even run his own life; I’ll be damned if he’ll run mine.”
So refreshing to see that censorship is back in vogue.
Happy New Year!!!
One final tidbit: There is one famous song that got blackballed all across America even though it was immensely popular. I really do need to do some more follow up on that story. It was a first (to my memory) when dj’s themselves said ‘this song is trash; it’s meaning and essence is garbage; we simply aren’t going to play it anymore’. Remember Rico Suave? Reee-ko Swarrr-vey…..

By: carole

carole — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 06:09:43 +0000

Eddy, I loved your post:

We can sing of criminals: “Indiana Wants Me”, “Green Green Grass Of Home”, “Gotta Get A Message To You”, “Delilah”….
Crazy people: “Delta Dawn”, “Copacabana”, “Angie Baby”, “They’re Coming To Take Me Away”….
We sing of lovin’, of cheating, of two-timing, of moving on, of stepping out, of finding the real thing, of working things through….

I luvvvv the Bee Gees so when I reached “Gotta Get a Message to You,” I thought, “Huh? That’s about a criminal?” So here I sat, trying to remember the lyrics, mumbling, grumbling, singing off key (nothing new, for sure). It is one of those recordings which enables the listener to sing along only so far before he or she is reduced to humming or garbling nonsense after reaching a certain part where the lyrics are obscured by the orchestration and/or the mumbling of the singers. Yep. The Bee Gees are indeed hard to understand , but I love ’em anyway.
So, “Hold ooon, hold onnnnnn”? That was about a criminal trying to see her for the last time? Guess that’s what the “One more hour and my life will be through” was all about. Boy, do I feel dumb! Guess I need to go to Lyrics.com!
Oh, and “Delta Dawn” ? I admit to pulling out my Helen Reddy and blasting that song as loudly as I can in the car. Personally, I do think it’s a very empathic song, funny also that my sister only yesterday said, “I wish Helen Reddy still performed.”
So, you got me to singing songs I love, but your point is very well taken, Eddy–so true.

But, yeah, we simply cannot have a song about that.

Meatloaf? “No, I can’t_do_ THAT!” LOL.