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	Comments on: Berg vs. Obama: Request to submit amicus brief filed	</title>
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		By: Craig		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2008/12/08/berg-vs-obama-request-to-submit-amicus-brief-filed/#comment-24254</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Craig]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think it would be wise to simply let this go. This issue has potential consequences whether now or at a later date. Presidents have to be &quot; natural born &quot; for a good reason. Barack Obama Jr&#039;s questionable background is a prime example.
The &quot; natural born &quot; clause appears as a measure to ensure the Office of the Presidency is void of foreign influence and to secure the American way. Who here given Barack Obama&#039;s past can ensure that without question.
If the issue is of such little importance why has he and the DNC gone to such lengths to ensure the issue is not investigated?.
What concerns me is that you have a major political Party in the United States that knowingly presented a Presidential candidate to the American people that was not just Constitutionally unqualified but unqualified in ability. The man has done absolutely nothing in his political career that warrants nor substantiates his candidacy.
How many people would decide on a heart surgeon with such nonchalance. Isn&#039;t that exactly what has gotten us into this current mess were in.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it would be wise to simply let this go. This issue has potential consequences whether now or at a later date. Presidents have to be &#8221; natural born &#8221; for a good reason. Barack Obama Jr&#8217;s questionable background is a prime example.<br />
The &#8221; natural born &#8221; clause appears as a measure to ensure the Office of the Presidency is void of foreign influence and to secure the American way. Who here given Barack Obama&#8217;s past can ensure that without question.<br />
If the issue is of such little importance why has he and the DNC gone to such lengths to ensure the issue is not investigated?.<br />
What concerns me is that you have a major political Party in the United States that knowingly presented a Presidential candidate to the American people that was not just Constitutionally unqualified but unqualified in ability. The man has done absolutely nothing in his political career that warrants nor substantiates his candidacy.<br />
How many people would decide on a heart surgeon with such nonchalance. Isn&#8217;t that exactly what has gotten us into this current mess were in.</p>
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		By: Cris Ericson		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2008/12/08/berg-vs-obama-request-to-submit-amicus-brief-filed/#comment-24253</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cris Ericson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 01:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hawaii Revised Statutes
HRS 0338-0020 0005.htm
(a) the department of health shall establish
a Hawaii certificate of birth
for a person born in a foreign country
and child by adoptive parent or parents.
Hawaii Revised Statutes
HRS 0578-0014.htm
(b) if a new birth certificate...
is issued, the original birth certificate shall be destroyed.
Hawaii Revised Statutes
HRS 0338-0041.htm
(b) any certificate of Hawaiin birth
issued heretofore under or by virture of
any evidence
overcome by competent evidence
of nonidentification
4 U.S.D.C. Haw. 258.
Certificate not controlling.
I hope that one of the people filing petitions to the Supreme
Court of the United States
will amend their petition immediately to ask the Court
this question:
Shall the Supreme Court of the United States
use its authority to strike down and immediately repeal
Hawaii birth certificate laws because they act to
deprive voters of their Constitutional right to vote for
a natural born citizen by seriously and willfully and
intentionally conspiring to conceal material facts
and defraud voters?
If it is necessary to add a name to a petition in order
to qualify to amend it,
then add mine,
Cris Ericson, registerd Vermont voter
http://crisericson.com]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hawaii Revised Statutes<br />
HRS 0338-0020 0005.htm<br />
(a) the department of health shall establish<br />
a Hawaii certificate of birth<br />
for a person born in a foreign country<br />
and child by adoptive parent or parents.<br />
Hawaii Revised Statutes<br />
HRS 0578-0014.htm<br />
(b) if a new birth certificate&#8230;<br />
is issued, the original birth certificate shall be destroyed.<br />
Hawaii Revised Statutes<br />
HRS 0338-0041.htm<br />
(b) any certificate of Hawaiin birth<br />
issued heretofore under or by virture of<br />
any evidence<br />
overcome by competent evidence<br />
of nonidentification<br />
4 U.S.D.C. Haw. 258.<br />
Certificate not controlling.<br />
I hope that one of the people filing petitions to the Supreme<br />
Court of the United States<br />
will amend their petition immediately to ask the Court<br />
this question:<br />
Shall the Supreme Court of the United States<br />
use its authority to strike down and immediately repeal<br />
Hawaii birth certificate laws because they act to<br />
deprive voters of their Constitutional right to vote for<br />
a natural born citizen by seriously and willfully and<br />
intentionally conspiring to conceal material facts<br />
and defraud voters?<br />
If it is necessary to add a name to a petition in order<br />
to qualify to amend it,<br />
then add mine,<br />
Cris Ericson, registerd Vermont voter<br />
<a href="http://crisericson.com" rel="nofollow ugc">http://crisericson.com</a></p>
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		By: Kristopher		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2008/12/08/berg-vs-obama-request-to-submit-amicus-brief-filed/#comment-24252</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kristopher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 08:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To All,
Have any reporters asked Obama where he was born? If so, when? What is the name of the reporter? What did Obama say? Did he confirm his birth being in the US or did he mention the COLB on his website or did he not answer the question? If not, why not? And if no one asked him in a press conference, why not? If you have an answer can you provide proof?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To All,<br />
Have any reporters asked Obama where he was born? If so, when? What is the name of the reporter? What did Obama say? Did he confirm his birth being in the US or did he mention the COLB on his website or did he not answer the question? If not, why not? And if no one asked him in a press conference, why not? If you have an answer can you provide proof?</p>
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		By: Brian		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2008/12/08/berg-vs-obama-request-to-submit-amicus-brief-filed/#comment-24251</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 00:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There is humor value in all of this.  Donofrio, whose case is thrown out of court, and as any law student would know, has no reasonable theory on standing, is lauded as helping Wrotnowski with his brief.   Obviously, Donofrio will be a big help.  His track record on the identical issue is perfect - dismissed and denied in every court he has been to.
Then, there is this novel new issue that Chester A.  Arthur, born in Vermont, was ineligible to be president and he appointed Gray (nevermind confirmed by the Senate) to the court and Gray wrote the opinion (nevermind that the majority of the court agreed) in an important precedent contrary to Donofrio et al. bogus legal theory and therefore the case should be overturned.  Many of us who went to law
school don&#039;t recognize the legal doctrine at issue here.  This is the &quot;130 retroactive ineligibility makes all acts by all appointed by the supposed ineligible person void.&quot;   I would guess the number of cases cited for that proposition equals precisely zero.
There might be better luck connecting Pres. Arthur and Ayers and Rev. Wright.
Maybe Malcolm X was Pres. Arthur&#039;s father.
For all those thinking and hoping that if just enough nearly identical cases are filed that sooner or later the Supreme Court will just have to rule Obama ineligible, I have a suggestion - buy lottery tickets, because your chances of winning millions of dollars is far greater than the chance of the SC ruling the way you imagine.
Also, if you get in trouble with the law, feel free to hire Mr. Berg or Mr. Donofrio to defend you.  They really have a firm grasp of legal principles and you&#039;d be in safe hands with them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is humor value in all of this.  Donofrio, whose case is thrown out of court, and as any law student would know, has no reasonable theory on standing, is lauded as helping Wrotnowski with his brief.   Obviously, Donofrio will be a big help.  His track record on the identical issue is perfect &#8211; dismissed and denied in every court he has been to.<br />
Then, there is this novel new issue that Chester A.  Arthur, born in Vermont, was ineligible to be president and he appointed Gray (nevermind confirmed by the Senate) to the court and Gray wrote the opinion (nevermind that the majority of the court agreed) in an important precedent contrary to Donofrio et al. bogus legal theory and therefore the case should be overturned.  Many of us who went to law<br />
school don&#8217;t recognize the legal doctrine at issue here.  This is the &#8220;130 retroactive ineligibility makes all acts by all appointed by the supposed ineligible person void.&#8221;   I would guess the number of cases cited for that proposition equals precisely zero.<br />
There might be better luck connecting Pres. Arthur and Ayers and Rev. Wright.<br />
Maybe Malcolm X was Pres. Arthur&#8217;s father.<br />
For all those thinking and hoping that if just enough nearly identical cases are filed that sooner or later the Supreme Court will just have to rule Obama ineligible, I have a suggestion &#8211; buy lottery tickets, because your chances of winning millions of dollars is far greater than the chance of the SC ruling the way you imagine.<br />
Also, if you get in trouble with the law, feel free to hire Mr. Berg or Mr. Donofrio to defend you.  They really have a firm grasp of legal principles and you&#8217;d be in safe hands with them.</p>
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		By: GeorgetownJD		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2008/12/08/berg-vs-obama-request-to-submit-amicus-brief-filed/#comment-24250</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GeorgetownJD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 04:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, much like Leo Donofrio, it seems that the putative author of the amicus  brief, Lawrence Joyce, has a double career.  From Star Enterpirses Publicity, a booking agency for radio and television guests speaking on such topics as &quot;Democrats&#039; New Push for EQUAL TIME Doctrine May Silence Conservative Radio Hosts!&quot; and  &quot;Did America FAKE the Moon Landings?&quot; and Phyllis Schlafly (&quot;ALAN KEYES vs. OBAMA /Schlafly calls for debates!&quot;):
&lt;blockquote&gt;SURVIVING GERM WARFARE
Lawrence Joyce is a pharmacist, an attorney, and an author of a book on surviving biological warfare. He reminds Americans that symptoms of Anthrax, Small Pox and other biological plagues do not begin to show up right away. He comments on the recent lethal biological outbreak on the Pakistan/Afghanistan border. Lawrence is a resident of Tucson, Arizona.
Lawrence Joyce received his B.S. in pharmacy from the University of Arizona in 1977, and his J.D. in law from the University of Arizona in 1985.
He is a member of the bar of the State of Arizona and the State of Illinois, and of the Supreme Court of the United States.
He participated in a tour of the U.S. Army&#039;s Dugway Proving Grounds Biological Warfare Unit in Utah in August of 1996, which prompted him to publish his book, LESSONS FROM DUGWAY: What I Learned About Surviving Germ Warfare At The U.S. Army Proving Grounds.
To schedule an interview with Lawrence Joyce call: xxx-xxx-xxxx or fill out the Quick and Easy Booking Form.&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, much like Leo Donofrio, it seems that the putative author of the amicus  brief, Lawrence Joyce, has a double career.  From Star Enterpirses Publicity, a booking agency for radio and television guests speaking on such topics as &#8220;Democrats&#8217; New Push for EQUAL TIME Doctrine May Silence Conservative Radio Hosts!&#8221; and  &#8220;Did America FAKE the Moon Landings?&#8221; and Phyllis Schlafly (&#8220;ALAN KEYES vs. OBAMA /Schlafly calls for debates!&#8221;):</p>
<blockquote><p>SURVIVING GERM WARFARE<br />
Lawrence Joyce is a pharmacist, an attorney, and an author of a book on surviving biological warfare. He reminds Americans that symptoms of Anthrax, Small Pox and other biological plagues do not begin to show up right away. He comments on the recent lethal biological outbreak on the Pakistan/Afghanistan border. Lawrence is a resident of Tucson, Arizona.<br />
Lawrence Joyce received his B.S. in pharmacy from the University of Arizona in 1977, and his J.D. in law from the University of Arizona in 1985.<br />
He is a member of the bar of the State of Arizona and the State of Illinois, and of the Supreme Court of the United States.<br />
He participated in a tour of the U.S. Army&#8217;s Dugway Proving Grounds Biological Warfare Unit in Utah in August of 1996, which prompted him to publish his book, LESSONS FROM DUGWAY: What I Learned About Surviving Germ Warfare At The U.S. Army Proving Grounds.<br />
To schedule an interview with Lawrence Joyce call: xxx-xxx-xxxx or fill out the Quick and Easy Booking Form.</p></blockquote>
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