Comments on: Donofrio vs Wells: Obama citizenship case covered by the Chicago Tribune

By: Barry Truthgun

Barry Truthgun — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 19:05:25 +0000

The Williams article makes a terrible case. It replaces the Constitution with a book by a Swiss guy to make it’s case.

By: Stephen

Stephen — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 18:14:27 +0000

The Sun Sentinel article states, “under U.S. law, persons born in the United States are natural born citizens”. This is a true statement if we are talking about the U.S. Code passed by congress, specifically 8 USC 1401. But there is no reason to believe that the term “natural born citizen”, as used in USC, was meant to redefine the term “natural born Citizen” as used in the U.S. Constitution as an eligibility requirement for president. Even if this had been congress’ intent, congress cannot change the meaning of the Constitution through legislation alone.
The Williams article, cited earlier, makes a convincing case that “natural born Citizen” has always meant “born on U.S. soil to parents, both of whom were U.S. citizens at the time of birth”.
In most states, the Secretary of State is responsible for checking the eligibility of each candidate. Almost all of them have admitted that they never bothered to do any checking of any kind into any candidate’s eligibility. Not only did they not bother to consider the implications of Obama’s dual citizenship at birth, they never bothered to ask for his original long-form “vault” birth certificate.
Thus the lawsuit asks the Supreme Court (a) to order each Secretary of State to do his/her job, specifically, to properly investigate and certify each candidate’s eligibility before permitting the electors of that state to vote for that candidate in the Electoral College; and (b) to give guidance as to what the “natural born Citizen” presidential eligibility requirement is.

By: Eddy

Eddy — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 02:53:49 +0000

Thanks Ann.
Tonight’s karaoke was online. New (for me at least) on MySpace. I practiced a few but didn’t add anything to my saved performances. Today’s high temp was 17 degrees here…no urge to go out for the evening.
The birth certificate doesn’t play into the Donofrio hearing. Berg was questioning his actual place of birth; Donofrio is questioning the British citizenship conferred on Obama by way of his father’s Kenyan citizenship. The Berg thread tended to mix the two issues.

By: Ann

Ann — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 02:34:03 +0000

maybe that’s a sign that I should focus on karaoke tonight instead of blogging.
Eddy,
Know this is off topic – just wanted to wish you a good time tonight.
On topic – I agree with your thoughts about FredVN. Not sure where this whole thing will go but I am perplexed as to why it is not being concluded by providing the proper documentation, ie – hospital records that would indicate where he was born, doctor’s notes, etc., that would satisfy his eligibility for those he will be working for and paying his salary. The appearance of evading is as bad as the actual act of evading. He is always going to have to face his opponents in one way or another but in this particular instance all he has to do is provide the right documentation and it will be over with. The longer it goes, the worse it looks.

By: Eddy

Eddy — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 01:21:01 +0000

LOL….
….’notify me of follow-up comments button’.
I don’t know what mystery key I hit that sent the first incomplete sentence. Hmmm…maybe that’s a sign that I should focus on karaoke tonight instead of blogging.