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		By: Legolas		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I didn&#039;t say any one person was equivalent to any one other person, and I have no idea how &quot;longer time in jail&quot; is supposed to make someone a more honorable association.
If we&#039;re going to start making ad hoc, out-of-context comparisons, why not compare Liddy&#039;s advice to shoot federal officials in the head (Liddy says he was not trying to promote strategies for anyone except those with a legal right to protect themselves) with Ayer&#039;s statements such as:
&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;The reason we weren&#039;t terrorists is because we did not commit random acts of terror against people. Terrorism was what was being practiced in the countryside of Vietnam by the United States.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;I condemn all forms of terrorism — individual, group and official&quot;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Today we are witnessing crimes against humanity on our own shores on an unthinkable scale, and I fear that we may soon see more innocent people in other parts of the world dying in response.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Regardless of what you think about these quotes or their sincerity, no one seeking to smear Obama with an association to Ayers ever seems to get around to using or examining them.
Two other points:
1) If some of Obama&#039;s associations are perhaps arguably more &lt;em&gt;questionable&lt;/em&gt;, McCain and Palin&#039;s are perhaps arguably more &lt;em&gt;personal&lt;/em&gt;.
2) Unless there is evidence that a candidate shares some sort of questionable political belief or practice, these sorts of &quot;smear by association&quot; tactics don&#039;t really work very well.  As evidenced by the fact that McCain continues to slip in the polls while using an attack strategy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t say any one person was equivalent to any one other person, and I have no idea how &#8220;longer time in jail&#8221; is supposed to make someone a more honorable association.<br />
If we&#8217;re going to start making ad hoc, out-of-context comparisons, why not compare Liddy&#8217;s advice to shoot federal officials in the head (Liddy says he was not trying to promote strategies for anyone except those with a legal right to protect themselves) with Ayer&#8217;s statements such as:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The reason we weren&#8217;t terrorists is because we did not commit random acts of terror against people. Terrorism was what was being practiced in the countryside of Vietnam by the United States.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I condemn all forms of terrorism — individual, group and official&#8221;.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Today we are witnessing crimes against humanity on our own shores on an unthinkable scale, and I fear that we may soon see more innocent people in other parts of the world dying in response.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Regardless of what you think about these quotes or their sincerity, no one seeking to smear Obama with an association to Ayers ever seems to get around to using or examining them.<br />
Two other points:<br />
1) If some of Obama&#8217;s associations are perhaps arguably more <em>questionable</em>, McCain and Palin&#8217;s are perhaps arguably more <em>personal</em>.<br />
2) Unless there is evidence that a candidate shares some sort of questionable political belief or practice, these sorts of &#8220;smear by association&#8221; tactics don&#8217;t really work very well.  As evidenced by the fact that McCain continues to slip in the polls while using an attack strategy.</p>
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		By: David		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[C&#039;mon people are you really willing to compare J Gordon Liddy, a guy who paid for his crime, to Ayers, who was quoted as saying &quot;guilty as hell and free as a bird&quot;?
That is ridiculous!
As I have said in previous posts I am not a huge McCain fan but when it comes to comparing questionable political and personal associations he is so much cleaner than Obama.
To think otherwise is to be divorced from reality!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon people are you really willing to compare J Gordon Liddy, a guy who paid for his crime, to Ayers, who was quoted as saying &#8220;guilty as hell and free as a bird&#8221;?<br />
That is ridiculous!<br />
As I have said in previous posts I am not a huge McCain fan but when it comes to comparing questionable political and personal associations he is so much cleaner than Obama.<br />
To think otherwise is to be divorced from reality!</p>
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		By: Jayhuck		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 07:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;Where there is smoke, there is usually fire.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;
ABSOLUTELY David - it just looks like its in the McCain/Palin camp :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Where there is smoke, there is usually fire.&#8221;</i><br />
ABSOLUTELY David &#8211; it just looks like its in the McCain/Palin camp 🙂</p>
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		By: Jayhuck		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 07:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[NOT to mention the Palin corruption scandal where she apparently abused her position as Governor :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NOT to mention the Palin corruption scandal where she apparently abused her position as Governor 🙂</p>
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		By: Lynn David		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynn David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 06:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll find a lot of incidental and some quite real relationships that add up to exactly that which is your mind/heart&#039;s desire, Warren.  Physician, heal thyself!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll find a lot of incidental and some quite real relationships that add up to exactly that which is your mind/heart&#8217;s desire, Warren.  Physician, heal thyself!</p>
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